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Angel: Now I am very happy to have you all here

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for the next talk on a really important topic.

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And we all called last year for

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more creative campaigns on all our issues,

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that we talk about here at congress.

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And so the Peng! Collective thought about a

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really creative campaign that also got

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a lot of attention in the last year.

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And because they call for all

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the intelligence officers to really exit

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their careers and to find some other

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more valuable service to our society,

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I'm very honoured to introduce

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Gloria Spindle to you,

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who is a former Google nest employee,

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—You might remember that great campaign—

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and will now present the "Intelexit" to you.

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Thank you! Your Applause!

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*applause*

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*silence on the audio stream*

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Gloria: Hello!

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And hello to all the live streaming people
out there as well.

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Blubb blubb we can see you!

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I hear they're a lot, maybe more than
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All the lights are dimming.

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Okay, so! I don't know if anyone else

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is as interested in the parts

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of the Snowdon documents as I am,

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which are the kind of little cultural titbits
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what it's like to be within the Secret Service.

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I'm really kind of fascinated
by this particular gentleman.

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The SIGINT Philosopher, who was a columnist

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for the NSA on the internal news letter

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and he is really quite creative

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and he writes a lot of pieces

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about the ethical quandaries of working
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And most of them end with just like:

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"You should just like keep your head down
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what you're supposed to be doing,

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'cause that's the best way to go ahead
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So this quote is really the kind of crux

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of what the “Intelexit” Initiative
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We recognise that people who are working

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in the Secret Services, and I'm sure

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some of you in the audience tonight

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are working in the Secret Services

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— pretty certain there are some disgruntled, maybe unhappy,

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maybe ethically confused people
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maybe you're just a contractor

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and you feel like: Oh I'm not so involved,

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but I still feel like
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And those are the people
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*very mild applause*

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That was like have a clap.
I mean come on, people!

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*applause*

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Thank you! Thank you! Jesus!

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Don't be afraid of clapping!

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So those are the people that “Intelexit”
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And we wanted to reach out to those people,

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because there hasn't been a campaign yet
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that they are humans working,

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thousands and thousands of people

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going every day to their surveillance jobs,
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and even the people who are just

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answering emails or you know pushing paper,

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running the photocopy machine,
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— Who knows what they have in there —

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Those People,
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have ethical issues about working

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and feel responsible
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drone warfare and the slow, maybe fast,

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degradation of democracy as we know it.

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So, introducing “Intelexit”!

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*applause*

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So what Intelexit does is

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it's an initiative, a civil initiative

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grounded in the idea that we
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to support people who want to leave

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their jobs at the Secret Services

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and we need to normalise
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*applause*

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Because actually it's a very just and

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sometimes honourable thing to do,

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just to follow your ethics and

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if you don't feel like you're contributing
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*applause*

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So that’s why Intelexit pitch.

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Some of you might know:

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I'm from Peng! as it was introduced earlier

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and we are known for our hoaxes

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and our media hacks and our culture jamming.

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So intelexit is been a really, really
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and I’ll explain it as I go.

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Because of course you see it's a bit of

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performance and it's a bit of humour

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but it's also very serious at the same time.

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So, just to introduce Peng! to you,

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for those who don't know.

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Here we were... this was at re:publica

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impersonating Google managers and

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presenting some really creepy,

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data collecting products.

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A personal drone for daily life,

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an app that monitors your well-being,
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and matches you with other people
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and creepy thing about that is most

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of this distopian visions have now actually

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Actually people do use drones
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That's a real thing.

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So and here we are impersonating the
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and here we are in live television,
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of a very dodgy television program

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and this was our program to self....

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provide self help for trolls,
sexist trolls on twitter

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and that was our self help coach.

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we had a language analysis
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and then we had an army of 160 bots

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which were going out and enrolling trolls

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on twitter into our self help program

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and sending them nice inspirational videos

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every day to help cure them.

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So as you can see we have a...

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we utilise a range
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in what we call campaigning.

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Some people call it art,
some people call it theatre,

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some people call it a joke,
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but we see it as campaigning
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is to shift the narrative.
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shift the narrative around
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a kind of different spin
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and we take them and find a way to
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and hope that we get a lot of attention.

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So we started looking at the issue of

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surveillance and the Secret Services.

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And, well, quickly one runs into the obstacle

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of how do you talk about this.

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the eye and, you know, Edward Snowden’s face

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and we have these visuals that kind of

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don't really mean anything anymore

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and everyone really struggles
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what the issue means and how do we talk about

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the Secret Services,
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So this a photo, for example, of the regulations

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for taking photographs at Fort Meade.

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You see, you’re not really allowed
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for the inaccessibility of the Secret Services

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we can't access their structures,
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Yes we have leaks now,
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everything is so secret.

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I mean even if a Christmas card
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it's classified as top secret.

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the general public can't understand it

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weird flow charts and bad design

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like ourselves, for civil society.
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We don't want to broach this issue.

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because it's scary,
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it means that you are
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the narrative is often shaped.

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This is what we use,
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about surveillance.
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We, you know, we talk about this invincible,

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dark danger of surveillance
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No one knows,
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And this, we think, is a narrative
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to bring a positive image to this narrative

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and also to bring it down to humans

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like not to talk about technology,

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not to talk about these
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but to talk about the people

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and talk to the people who are upholding
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So this is what we came up with:

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off-voice from video:
Right now, thousands of people work

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in the shadows
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They don't ask questions.

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They follow orders.

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Keep their heads down,

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do their work.

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But what happens,
when you see something you can't forget?

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And you realise that the system you are

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part of is chipping away our democracy

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every hour, every day.

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You feel stuck,
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Some people have already made
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Others are thinking about it every day.

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Intelexit helps people break free
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and build a new life.

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You expose yourself within the system,

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you ultimately end up
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I remember confronting my immediate supervisor

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the number 3 person: What are we doing?

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We are violating the constitution!

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– Many Secret Service employees are disillusioned.

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– Why are we taking equipment

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—it is traditionally for foreign facing,
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and we're now instrumenting our networks

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within the United States of America?

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- If you're surveilling the population,
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Right? You want all the data and you want to
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So the NSA is a
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– It's what ever you can get away with.

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That was part of the "game".

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And whatever would serve
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– When one is forced to act against one's
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extreme levels of
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– I was radioactive because
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Where do you then go?
Where does your life then …

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Where do you recreate your life?

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– What Intelexit does is help individuals

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transition from the world on the inside

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to the world on the outside.

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– The more you can move
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the better you'll integrate
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– What is really great about Intelexit is
that it helps people to confront their fears.

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– So take it from me:

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If you're looking to get out,
try Intelexit!

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– Be smart. Exit intelligence now.

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*roaring applause*

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I was really impressed
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Bruce Schneier is just amazing without end.

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I mean, who knew he had those talents?

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Someone take him to acting school.

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Like, it's amazing!

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Okay, so then we made the video,

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but of course we knew, we know
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the spies, are some of the
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And probably some of them the people

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most stuck in a filter bubble in the world.

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So we knew we had to kind of
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and we had to go to where they are.

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So you know we thought big and we pretended

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we just forgot about that we didn't really
have a budget.

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And so we just hired a van.
Because that's what you do.

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So we just hired this van and drove around

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Fort Meade and the NSA buildings,

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tried as much as we could to get
as close as possible to them as we could.

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*applause*

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So this is outside Lockheed Martin

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on a national business parkway.

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The main area of all the NSA contractors

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and they are really best friend with the NSA
and now they started making drones as well.

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They’ve been supplying technology
to the military and the CIA and NSA forever.

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So that’s us parked outside there,
giving them a strong moral punch

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with the slogan.

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And then we went to one of the most popular

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cafes where NSA officers and contractors
like to go for lunch.

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This Café JOE.
And we parked out there

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during lunch time as well.

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*applause*

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And then of course, because you can't talk

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about the Secret Services in one country
without talking about the other ones,

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'cause they are all in bed with each other,

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we of course had to go to the UK as well.

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So here we are outside the "Donut" and
this is us trying …

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okay, to be honest 
*laughing*

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that's trying to hand out flyer, brochures
to the people.

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Like that was our plan.

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We were gonna hand them out
to the employees on their way to work.

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And they were just like *imitates engine roar*
they had, like, been briefed..

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or I don't know.
They were just ignoring us.

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And also maybe we didn't brief that guy

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very well on what to dress
as an Intelexit ambassador.

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And then we hit all the …
*laughter in the audience*

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applause

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This is outside the Dagger Complex in Germany.

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One of the lesser known spots for the NSA

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where they kind of have a central hub

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for the signal's intelligence
gathering in Europe,

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it's been written about in the Spiegel.

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Very secret, very difficult
to get there as well.

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And there we are, again,
from the other side.

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And that is the antenna
from the Dagger Complex.

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And then we also went to Wiesbaden,

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which is the traditional
home of the US military in Germany

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And the Clay Kaserne Building!

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This is where supposedly, forthcoming

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is going to be
one of the NSA’s biggest buildings

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and operations in Europe,
also all very secret.

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No one knows what's going on.

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And then we went to the
US Embassy in Berlin.

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And this for non German speakers just says:

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"Enough with paranoia!"

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This is why we had the like
dadaistic pineapple on there.

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"We’re helping you to
get out of the Secret Services!"

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And then we went to the
German Secret Services as well.

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This is there new office block,
the Bundesnachrichtendienst

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*applause*

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and we also went
to the old offices, just in case.

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*laughter and applause*

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And then we went to …
—we did a lot in a week—

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we went to the Verfassungsschutz which is

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the domestic intelligence in Germany.

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And this is located in Köln,
to remind them about

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—so the Verfassungsschutz actually
stands for roughly translated in English is:

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Protectors of the constitution—

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and in order to remind them about
the constitution

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we stuck the constitution on their wall there.

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*applause*

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And then there they are ripping it up.

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This was like a dream we had
for a very long time

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and finally we have realized it. *laughing*

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And then we thought we take a bigger step...

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*music*

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*laughter in the audience*

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*music*

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*applause in the audience*

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According to sources, Intelexit website

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was blocked on the internal network
after that dropped.

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So that was our week and that was Intelexit.

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And I just want to
share a few learnings with you,

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because it was a very
interesting campaign for us

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and one of a kind, really.

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So I think the first thing
on a very kind of

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just basic level is that it is possible

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to talk about this issue
without creating fear,

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without making everyone, you know,

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really worried about their information

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and the data and their general feeling
of well-being.

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There is a way of kind of shift the narrative

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and look more at the outside and stop

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holding the defensive.

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Okay, then second thing is that

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they are just as good in faking as we are.

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This was the response from the GCHQ to a

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journalist question for an article about
Intelexit, which is amazing,

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because they basically just said
that they don’t do

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anything unlawful and they actively encourage

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staff to discuss any concerns that they have

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inside, which we all know is not true.

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And they also they really pride themselves

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on the structures they have in place
to support this.

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So I think this was
the biggest surprise for us.

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Like we are always dealing in this kind of

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projecting of either utopias or distopias

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out into the world

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and sometimes when you have a vision

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and you project something out,

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actually it kind of turns into reality.

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And that's what happened.

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You know, we played this line of

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yes it's sort of a fake, but at the same time

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we really mean what we’re putting out here.

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Yes, we actually think there should be
an Intelexit Foundation created.

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And there should be loads of money

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flowing in for people who want to get out.

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And there should be a civil way to exit.

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*applause*

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But, you know, what can we do?

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We're just like a small art collective

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in Berlin. You know.

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We can make a big wave, but we're

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quite limited on our resources.

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But actually we got responses,

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we got people coming to us

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and that was a real surprise

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and we realised we have
a lot of responsibility, too.

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And so, this is the other learning that

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there is no clear line
between insanity and reality.

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So you kind of constantly, when you get

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people contacting you this like,

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of course you get people who think that

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they are pursued by the CIA

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or think that they used to work at the secret
service

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and then there is people who talk to aliens

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and these kinds of things

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and then you get people with really legitimate
stories

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and there is a kind of constant balance

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and we really had to learn how to

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assess these.

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And luckily we had amazing support from

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investigative journalists, particularly from

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whistle-blower platforms who have experience

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with this and help us.

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But that's just part of the game.

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Okay, I think this is our other learning,

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that we realised, that

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at the end of this week,

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there really is a need for this.

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There is a need to respond to kind of

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discourse that's out there

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and create a new one

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and then there is also really a need to

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provide this kind of support and

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actually reach out to people who are

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trapped in these structures and want to get
out.

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So we've been working really hard and trying

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to build up networks of support with people

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who have legal skills,

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who have psychological training

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and who can also help, if people want to

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get out and leak or blow the whistle,

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who can help with that.

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So we kind of at the moment when people come

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we are trying to direct them to the right
resources.

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Because of cause we're not

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a whistle blowing platform.

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And we are not a legal organisation,

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so we can't provide a lot of things,

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but we have good networks and we can try

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and connect people with them.

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So what's coming next?

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We are trying to build up our infrastructure

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so that people can actually have a very secure
way

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to contact us.

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We are building up this network of support

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and we want to create a list of future

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employers for people who actually do leave

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the secret services so that they can find

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places to get jobs afterwards.

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And we want to continue doing more

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outreach and more campaigning on this issue

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and I think that that is our main goal.

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applause

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That's a safe within a safe,

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which is now part of our kind of secure

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infrastructure in our offices,

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thanks to the support of very experienced

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and knowledgeable expert people

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who can help us set up the kind of

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the best way for people to kind of

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to enter the risk assessment to enter the

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best means of communicating with us.

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And then on our outreach plans

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we really want to create a way to talk to

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people who're working in the secret services

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for an every day person in this audience

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or on the stage just to call up the NSA

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or the BND or the GCHQ and get through

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to someone who is sitting in their office

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on their phone and have a conversation

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with them like callcenter-style.

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You know like: How are you doing today?

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Can we talk about your job?

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How do you feel about working at the

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secret services?

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We want to create an anonymous reaching

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system for someone to call completely

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anonymously to a set of numbers

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which we can't reveal the source of

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and to reach out to these people.

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So of course we need support and help.

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And these are all the things you can help
us with.

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If you got skills, we need all kinds of skills,

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we need skills to build up this call center

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operation of ours, so that people can actually

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anonymously call and we can have something

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that is very exciting and we can premier at

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events.

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So that you can actually have

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call center operations on stage calling up

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doing it live.

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And then we also need people who will

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translate our materials.

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We would like to get them into other

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languages, we only have English and German
atm.

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And we would like to kind of reach out more

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internationally.

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And if you've got connections,

483
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well that's also always good,

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if you've got people who are lawyers,

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who have experience working with people

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who are either in trauma or

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people who have been in the secret service

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for example.

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Legal skills, psychological skills,

490
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:57,679
journalists - we need all those kinds of

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connections in different jurisdictions.

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We are pretty well set up in Berlin and

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in Germany, but we really need help

494
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in the UK and the US as well for now.

495
00:26:09,090 --> 00:26:10,889
And then if you've got ideas for outreach

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for new actions we are also really open

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to hearing those.

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We've got the call center idea at the moment.

499
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Calling up the spies.

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We want new ideas and if you know people

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who are working there just have that

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conversation with them.

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Just start a conversation about you know,

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ethics of the workplace.

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applause

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And now... the big question...

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And I even do that to say how important it
is.

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If you like Peng!'s work we are not ashamed

509
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any more. We were ashamed for a long time

510
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to ask for money,

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but we're not ashamed any more.

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We live of idealism alone, people,

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and we need help to keep our actions going!

514
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This year I think we did 6 actions or something

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really large campaigns and we need help to

516
00:27:03,950 --> 00:27:06,619
kind of support our infrastructure,

517
00:27:06,619 --> 00:27:09,289
to support our staff,

518
00:27:09,289 --> 00:27:12,480
to support our projects more than anything,

519
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,580
so that we can keep on doing what we are doing.

520
00:27:16,580 --> 00:27:19,049
So we've developed a way for you to become

521
00:27:19,049 --> 00:27:22,230
a monkey donator which I highly recommend

522
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:26,450
great feelings of positivity and love will

523
00:27:26,450 --> 00:27:28,830
travel with you for many years after

524
00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:35,299
you have done this.

525
00:27:35,299 --> 00:27:37,399
Mother Theresa said:

526
00:27:37,399 --> 00:27:39,100
If you can't feed a hundred penguins,

527
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,669
then just feed one."

528
00:27:40,669 --> 00:27:43,629
So, feed one of us!

529
00:27:43,629 --> 00:27:45,470
Even if it's just like the pinky finger of

530
00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:49,429
one of us and sign up for a year to

531
00:27:49,429 --> 00:27:51,330
keep seeing great action coming out

532
00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:54,070
from Peng!

533
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:55,200
And that's me.

534
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,169
And we've got one more thing,

535
00:27:57,169 --> 00:28:01,919
surprise!
Where are you? Hello!

536
00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:03,989
So we have one other way to donate,

537
00:28:03,989 --> 00:28:05,289
which is that you can buy one of the

538
00:28:05,289 --> 00:28:07,149
awesome Intelexit T-shirts,

539
00:28:07,149 --> 00:28:09,379
which Paul is gonna come here and model

540
00:28:09,379 --> 00:28:13,029
for us quickly.

541
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:15,950
*laughing and applause*

542
00:28:15,950 --> 00:28:19,460
And there's a run for your life!

543
00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:20,609
That's the kind of lame one...

544
00:28:20,609 --> 00:28:24,409
but these ones are cool!

545
00:28:24,409 --> 00:28:26,840
Thank you!

546
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,609
Are we meeting afterwards?

547
00:28:30,609 --> 00:28:31,999
I think we're going to have...

548
00:28:31,999 --> 00:28:33,019
We don't have time for questions

549
00:28:33,019 --> 00:28:33,669
and answers now.

550
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:35,080
But we really want to get feedback

551
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,499
from people.

552
00:28:35,499 --> 00:28:38,029
I think there is an IRC Chat or Radio happening,

553
00:28:38,029 --> 00:28:39,509
but if people want to come we're going

554
00:28:39,509 --> 00:28:41,090
to meet.

555
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:43,580
Where are we meeting?

556
00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:45,290
In front!

557
00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:47,139
*laughing*

558
00:28:47,139 --> 00:28:50,980
Of this huge hall.

559
00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:51,940
Can someone give me a location,

560
00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:54,470
I only got here today...

561
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:55,799
Can you give us a location?

562
00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:56,989
Herald: Okay, So it's sensible to meet

563
00:28:56,989 --> 00:28:58,269
at the tea tent I suppose.

564
00:28:58,269 --> 00:28:58,940
Gloria: Tea tent!

565
00:28:58,940 --> 00:28:59,619
In 15 minutes!

566
00:28:59,619 --> 00:29:02,139
Herald: In front of hall 2, there is a big
tea tent,

567
00:29:02,139 --> 00:29:05,249
where you get tea, where you also

568
00:29:05,249 --> 00:29:06,820
meet many other people who are working

569
00:29:06,820 --> 00:29:08,649
in this direction therefore, right?

570
00:29:08,649 --> 00:29:09,289
Gloria: Yes!

571
00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:11,679
Herald: And I have one question still,

572
00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:14,789
because you told we can support on the Internet

573
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:17,850
is there also a way to donate anonymously?

574
00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:20,960
Gloria: Well, you can donate with bitcoin

575
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,759
or you can just give us cash.

576
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,480
Herald: Everybody, big piles of cash,

577
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,749
bring them here!

578
00:29:27,749 --> 00:29:32,299
Gloria: Not saying no to cash...

579
00:29:32,299 --> 00:29:33,639
Herald: Thank you, Gloria!

580
00:29:33,639 --> 00:29:34,970
Gloria: Ah, they got a bag!

581
00:29:34,970 --> 00:29:37,779
Herald: And there is a bag for cash!

582
00:29:37,779 --> 00:29:39,239
*laughing*

583
00:29:39,239 --> 00:29:41,909
Gloria: You can put it in very anonymously
here.

584
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:46,499
*laughing*

585
00:29:46,499 --> 00:29:49,600
Herald: Bring your blocking for your face

586
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,340
if you really want to be anonymous.

587
00:29:52,340 --> 00:29:53,960
Thank you, Gloria!

588
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,259
Everybody who wants to come,

589
00:29:55,259 --> 00:29:56,350
please go to the tea tent!

590
00:29:56,350 --> 00:30:02,392
*applause*

591
00:30:02,392 --> 00:30:13,292
*music*