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all right in the next 40 minutes we
invite you to experience buffer demons a
sound performance by Pedro Ramirez in
the piece Pedro will combine three
different containers of sound acoustic
digital and analog to explore the
concept of translation and non-local
interaction in the sound realm the piece
is inspired by ideas and Concepts from
musician onette Coleman philosopher
Timothy Morton and speculative fiction
author o l grown how all this comes
together in Sonic texures we will now be
exploring and experience together with
Pedro
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demons all right
I I don't really have the feeling like
there there's a PL to ration for such a
piece so we now do have a little time
for questions um or maybe comments
or curious thoughts um maybe on the
internet I'm looking at a Signa is oh
this is the hand movement this is always
a kind of M yeah if you want to ask a
question then you're welcome to go to
one of the microphones here in the
room or you just have to take it all in
then I have a question um Pedro um was
this actually planned that is this
supposed to
rip uh no actually not but I think it it
gave some momentum maybe like it made me
change everything which is kind of like
the yeah like the something I was
meaning like to it's improvise like I I
I set up the situation to happen I have
like some resources but kind of like the
flow or like how the feedback is
interacting with the room I start this
taking decisions on time so I think this
was a decision I didn't make but I had
to play with
it and it was very cinematic I don't
know I saw it slow mo
falling yeah
yeah anyone else some questions on Mike
two please um yeah what do you uh feel
would be missing in your setup or is it
just everything you
need in terms of like would you take
anything away or add anything like in
equipment you
mean
h
um
well for for this performance like like
I've done this performance twice and the
first one was like in a I mean it was
like the mixing was analog so I had like
analog mixing desk and I had like
compressors and preamplifiers and it had
like a different feeling like now I
decided to do all this like U like
utility work in the
iPad which gives like more flexibility
but it's also more complex so I guess
like in terms of so for for this
maybe yeah maybe like a either yeah
maybe like a clever way to program like
this utility like mixing and compression
which I wouldn't say I mean it's hard to
get it in the analog realm without
having a lot of devices so probably
getting like a better tool that I can
maybe code myself and use either by iPad
or some sort of controller
if you ever get about doing so put it on
GitHub okay yeah
sure okay on Mike one is one question
could you maybe talk a bit about the
setup like how there is a digital part
in the analog is intervened and how it
works together yes yes perfect yeah so I
mean like in terms of analog I'm having
like this uh real toore tape machine uh
what's going on here it's like um like
the tape machine it's very interesting
because it has like a read head and a
play head and the read can also erase
the the sound that it's in the in the in
the tape itself so what I do with this
paper is like I can like block and then
I have like I record sounds on the tape
for for each um let's say iteration so
this is like the analog part and the
digital I'm using like in here like I
wrote like a script for it's basically
like a digital tape it's like I'm
recording sounds in a buffer but what
I'm doing it's like I'm adding effects
in the
loop so and these effects are like Bas
basically bit Crusher and I'm doing like
some granulation so each time they go in
this digital Loop The Sounds start uh
distorting in a cascading
way and the other loop that I have is
like the like the speaker and the
microphone in
there so like that's that's kind of like
this three containers that I developed
like in a conceptual way and what I'm
doing it's like in the mixing desk is
like I'm going from one to another and
it's kind of like playing with this like
translation of the of like sound in in
in fixed Mater not fixed but like in
some supports let's
say other question all right is it
answered your question I I haven't
answered I was I was curious about um
the presence of uh Timothy Morton and
Lin's ideas as references yes yes yes
well like the the original like
framework of this project like it all
started by a reading of of Timothy
Morton uh book on realist magic I think
in one very simple uh paragraph he was
talking about Plato and about like the
idea of like like the demon that is like
something like uh action at a distance
like like it's he's talking about like
the C cality like something that happens
and when it's like when you cannot like
tie like the origin to the end it's kind
of like magic so I started to think like
how could I embrace those ideas in terms
of like music technology and for me like
a way I could I could make it it's like
using Loops or for example like this
extended Loop like something I'm
recording here it's going to come I
don't know maybe one minute
afterwards but I'm going to be in a
completely different state so it's this
kind of like like the breakage of the
recording head and play head like making
them apart that was the kind like the
metaphor that I decided to to use so
that's what I'm doing like in in the
digital realm and in the in the tape
realm and also like Rula kwi she has
this beautiful like short short story
about like the the carrier back theory
of fiction and where she says like um
like normally we have been told the
stories about like the great fighters to
go and they're like the gatherers that
they go and they they have like swords
and weapons so she's asking this
question about like the technology and
she says like okay instead of focusing
on the weapon of the male and this uh
like the the hero of the story she
reframes it into the into the the bags
what she says like the like a bag like a
container like something you can bring
and he he said she says like The
Gatherer is
nothing he's nothing if he if he doesn't
have a back so he can carry the the
foods the food he he he he takes so for
me that's very it was very influential
like in the terms of like uh
understanding like the container itself
as a matter as a as a as a way of
creating and I was thinking like the
tape is a container of sound like I
don't know like in 1950s in France they
would say like I have a sound and they
have like the the tape or or you have
audio file and you have like this like
the like audio buffer it's like like a
it's like a container of sound but it's
more like the sound is fluid in a way
because you're writing it and reading it
but it's you you
can make it
go or erase it or I mean yeah kind
of
thank you for explaining some of the
background on mic 3 we have another
question uh hi I have a question um as
far as practicing this form of music
goes I mean I I imagine you have been
doing this for some time so I'm
wondering how much of your performance
so to speak right now is replicating
sounds that you found at some point and
is there something that you're
looking for in the performance and that
like gives you a feeling of yeah this
was a good performance or this was you
were not unhappy you were not happy with
this one like is there any way like you
could explain that a little bit at least
yes yes
um yeah well I think like as as a
musician or as a as a sound artist like
one tends to have certain ways of
replicating what you've done and the
things you like in a way way like for
example in here I have I've been working
with like Loops for several time like
either digital like pedals and guitar or
or with the
tape and also like I have like samples
that like uh like the ones that were
like electricity kind
of and for me like the way I I guess
there's like different ways you can make
everything in C2 like completely in In
from from
scratch but but for me the way I find it
like it's like I have some prepared
materials but they are not completely
finished or I couldn't say they are
finished already but what I do is like I
select several of them like several
non-finished materials and for me what I
like to create in a in a life experience
is how
to give them like a new re
interpretation based on the combination
I gave to them you know
so yeah for example I mean the this room
is very different from the rooms I I did
this performance before or like they
usually do and it was very like the
feedback was
different and then for me it's like okay
how can I mix this like this more Bassy
tone with materials I already have and
then I just put them on the table and I
just start like kind of like oh okay I
quite like it this is the range I can
play with them so I add another ones and
I usually tend like to re
reutilize
reutilize well yeah use again
material uh and try to keep finding new
musical
experiences by the interaction of like
different agents let's say all right
thank
you yeah now we have Mike too another
question hi hi um I have a question
about the phone is it just that you keep
the time okay and I want wanted to ask
if it's possible to rearrange the camera
so we can see the tape machine better
yeah sure because we cannot see what
you're
doing right now we don't see nothing but
ah okay
ah I can well kind of like this is like
yeah this is like
the Eraser head and also no it records
and erases no wait yeah this erases this
records and this plays back sound so for
example when the tape is going and I
block it it's not erasing oh
sorry it's not
erasing
and
yeah kind of more questions now that we
have it here no but we couldn't just not
see it at all so it's nice to see it now
oh okay okay
the secrets of the machine are revealed
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mhm yes are there other
questions comments requests
for telephone ring phones by
Pedro
maybe or something from the internet
they signal Angel okay okay all
right well um I was really surprised
about what what could be felt during uh
the performance as well so I was
wondering if you had ever the chance to
try it out here in this uh hall or was
it your first time doing yeah it was a
challenge because I realized when I
arrived like there's no sound check so
literally I need to discover the room
while I'm playing and it was
very uh yeah very very
challenging just to prepare myself yeah
a very a very raw experience for
everyone of us but I really liked it and
as I said the different kinds of sounds
uh was it was really was a tangable
experience for us okay there are no more
questions and I would say if you're okay
with that we would close this session
Pedro is there anything you want to tell
your audience otherwise I would say
thanks again Pedro for showing us buffer
demons and have a great night
everyone thank
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you