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So warm applause to Acosta.
Well, and
thank you for coming, and
of course, thank you
for
to this organization for
being here these many
years.
And we dove and
invite us to to present
our project here because
what we have been
working very hard dating in
the midst of the river, we are now living
under the bridge in colorful.
And after two years,
we think that maybe we can show something
of what we are doing now.
We are still in process
and
where this is about
doing colorful,
that is by now has a very pretentious
name. We have both capital is
a clean, dusty old village.
We call it Colonia in Spanish
and the land.
And I'm playing way
to what it means to be a colony
there in Europe.
So, well, this is
where we spend most of the time
lately, and
this
is a space in
and
that has been inhabited since the 15th
century glacier in
the U.S.. Seventy five, there was the
year in which Franco died and
I was born and it was
abandoned, not in the same year,
and he was an
anchor in Catalonia.
There has been
not so much energy or forests
as in other places.
And there was a long tradition
of using the river
waters and for
powering meals.
So this has been
with
meal paper meal,
but basically all the time, people,
people move for many, many
years and for us, it's very important to
try to leave this place in a different
way now and with the memory
of the provision that has been
done
there, where
we have a lot of more green
than in other parts of Catalonia goes
we are in in the creek of our
river and we
have some inundations to
floating.
So for this and we we have also
our hydroelectric
turbines in
the place of 4.8
megawatts megawatt
megabytes.
And then
when word is an industrial colony,
it's a space is like a little town
with its church, of course,
in
school and
it's working houses.
These pictures of their colonies,
there are approximately approximately
200 colonies in Catalonia.
And now most
of them are abandoned.
Some are that some have been refurbished.
Some have become luxurious
spires
and
as a river, is very contaminated.
Ours was a still
unused and they
have been
places where the isolation is
like a town with an owner
and
where the families had to
provide at least four people who
work to be able to live there.
And it was very practical to avoid
any kind of scene, legalism
or
working rights because they were very
isolated. The workers there.
And so it was
very important also during then
the Republic
to
a lot of owners of these places got
killed and a lot of good collectivized
because they were very symbolic.
And we are loaded with all this
symbolism. Being in Catalonia
to be a capital is
to.
So this is our context, and
this is one of our of our
members, and she's trying to clean
up the wooden
mine we call it
when it rains and you
thin right now in Spain, in
Catalonia is in the news, live in a
very difficult moment.
And they are having more and more
education
and there
is less and less work.
I don't know if you have made many
Catalonia or Spanish lately.
They are coming
over
more often in the north
like we and he
started doing before.
And there's a bigger problem with the
houses also,
and
there is all this pride of their
industrialization.
We can
make profit.
This is a
lot of very interesting people in our
place.
Then there's this is another of the
things that the guys have
helped us create colorful.
And this is a word, and
the hero in the Iran is
a.
I don't know if you remember about his
case in 2008.
He's an activist of an
declaraciones or de-growth
and a
finance disobedient.
And he made the
video original kind of activism.
He started asking for a lot of
credit to the banks and
created consumer companies.
And then they were clueless.
McCray's kind of where one
million euros of credit,
you use half of it to keep
doing it that way, including
what with the whole bowl of crates
anymore.
He made a
save some money to run
away.
And then he made a really big publication
of the Kris's paper
and
which is
we wish that we spread
all over this big conference
and I'm explaining
why he did it, where the money comes
from. Well, everybody should do the
same. How can you do it?
And so he gave away
most of the money to a lot of people.
This was before the war.
We have no telephone with this money
and
all this
affected the way the people
said this in the bank's head.
Just before all these problems I
went to in Spain and now along with
the primes.
I don't know if you know what are the
prime brands
subprimes?
Is these mortgages
prepared to take the the houses out
of the people?
And so this was very important
in the moment in Spain
and
and in
not just in Catalonia.
And this created
a really big situation that helped
to create the computer.
The event the learner, which is
the mother project of colorful
Veridian de la Catalina,
is very hard to translate in English.
But I'm sure in German,
one word very nice
and integral
for for the members of our competitive
means like total, absolute
definitive
final, let's say here.
And it means that they we
want and we want to create that
cooperative that is on the Catalonian
tone and
we want to fulfill all the needs of our
members
through
solidarity, exchange
and not exchange without
forgetting their government and everybody
else except the four members
know. And then
all kinds of new housing,
education, their friends,
whatever.
No.
And these we can do an
evolving series of autonomous
projects that
follow some
principles and
like assembly reason,
consensus and
the growth we
do.
Who knows what the growth is?
And so I get to say it.
So the degree of the questions,
the
questions is a
way of thinking that the
and deliberately
and try
to waste less resources or use
the resources
more and
more intelligently and
stop.
But at 18 other
countries and
try to live with local production
and waste less.
So we can keep living on the planet
longer without
exploiting other people now.
So this is a very important for
the event, and that's where these cards
Catalan because we think
it has to be in the ambit of Catalonia.
Now more cooperatives are being born
in France and in places, but
we don't want to have a word
with Boeing doing this.
And so
we don't want to be self-sufficient,
sufficient like a world then
or this thing go back to the garden.
We don't want to make our own amoxicillin
or we think a week we
have to use the resources we have on a
place on a
bank.
And with this, we can exchange with other
relatives and we can all
live
to find one.
Does Sicily do the
one thing and another?
And of course, we exchange
those skills?
No, and
I would like
we we go installÃ© we finish it
and then as we get fine ones over,
but we teach also these.
And then, of course.
People is too lazy to give you the
elements anyway.
And so we are doing
the good, but it is also
very important financial infrastructure
because it allows us to
have much more freedom.
And like, for example, if you have
problems with the banks where you are in
depth
and you want,
give me some money, you can
you can end it through the cooperative
ones who are going to take it away from
you
or
you can in a tentative
currency, my currency.
And with this money, you can buy inside
the cooperative and there are no taxes.
Or you can also sell things
without lessons
in
doing the members of the cooperative,
you can sell
and
medicinal herbs, or
you can sell food without
having a proper place.
And we build upon trust.
No, we think the people
can see how we make our things
and they trust us because
everything is proximity and
we don't need to pay taxes
or
bother with these people.
And also, another thing that is happening
with the government of the day is that it
has netted to that allows
people that are never there, never has
been in activism to also participate
in the organization.
So we get a lot of very formal people.
We have a lot of families in the
cooperative
and not so.
So is in the cooperative, has many, many
different projects.
We are we
are going to talk about going forward.
I wanted to give you
an
insight on the different ones.
So we have our financing cooperative
where the people that has money can
borrow the money there and they go.
But this financing cooperative has
an assembly that decides to give this
money to other projects and
without the interests,
there is no interest in general.
Sometimes it is a little bit for
expenses, but almost nothing.
And then we have a cooperative
of builders and
electricity installer installers.
We have a health center,
mostly preventive, but there's also
a dentist
and we
have a lot of
houses or little farms.
And we we
are around
two dozen people know that
because there are these member
of the Co-operative in, they are Catalan,
not the other cooperatives.
So this is a colorful.
We start in the
winter there in July 2011.
And yeah, actually
we started before we started the
in November 2010.
Where did we gather the people
and
the money
we needed to enter?
And we took six months,
and
when we have a housing cooperative,
we have a workspace
where we do development.
We do event
outreach
and
workshops.
We have lots of.
Where is the strong female participation?
It was with a female
participation of strong
females.
And where
we come from, the
free software movement
or from the squatting movement, as we
and I do apply permaculture
design on the place, even
if it's not the garden and you can design
the system in a gradual
way.
And also the de-growth
we see again and the query
we have some problems with this
binary thing.
We we
have no idea.
One
way is
clear.
And so the numbers
and they take turns
and we have 27 apartment
for the workers.
Now I'm going to make you do the math.
We are very close to Barcelona and
this is very important for us because,
you know, not isolated in the middle
of nowhere that tells people that has a
car can go, you can go there
without a
car and
we are going to have to pay half a
million euros like
we do for four thousand
a month between the
credit and the
lease we have with the owner that we are.
We are in the use of
lease to the owner and a little money
we gave at the start.
Littered when compared
to the.
And right now we are fixing
the 46 people
we look up name on
the table.
But there is such a big project
is very hard to say how many people is
in there, not there.
Some people sustain, some people comes
in vacations and people send postcards
and people is arranging
an
actual contests
and things.
We are also, of course, a bigger group
of people, not just the people that lives
there. We we enjoy a
bit of support.
We also give a lot of and we can give
a lot of support.
Like when the houses get
squat, we can save the stuff
and
we we we where we exchange.
We are going to say in another
and another simply
and
we have an assembly every week
where and we decide the
most of this stuff.
And then we have this a housing
cooperative, which is a,
I think,
in Germany and there are similar
forms.
And so we,
the
cooperative owns the
house and actually the whole,
the whole colorful and
we can buy the right of use
of the house.
It's almost like being the owner where
they had some differences, for example.
But for us, it's really more than that.
And this is the first house of the
people that buys it.
So they don't have is not the weekend
house. They live.
There is their house.
We don't want to vacation
houses.
And you cannot leave the house empty
if you have to.
If you go to whatever one year,
you have to get somebody to use your
house
somehow or otherwise, it
is fair game.
And the workshop space
we do more rent and
rent based is not there.
You're going to buy the workshop space.
And we said we rent
it in a very cheap rent.
We think it's very one square meter.
And also, we think
we have a law, very big
list of things you can do and
allow you guys to be
non-genetic, existing
in our
big list.
And we
we got the we want.
We don't want to be alone there.
We we are very afraid if he
is fearful of this
isolation situation with the same
kind of shining syndrome.
And so we we welcome
visitors all the time.
And we have this policy
that every guest because a good mother
that helps them introduce
and we have a little how to also
offer 40 pages,
where did you your
game
plan everything the garbage
and I'll do with the Teagan
and everything.
Where to sheet everything.
And so this is the
space that is in
this every
day when there is the
and the building of the workers.
And then we have
this a huge
warehouse that was
burned
in 2004 and is
there right now is our biggest
pain because he's still
suffering with the rains and everything
is there. We don't know how
to deal with this roofing sheet.
And then we have
this
is a main building we have
in use right now, or they've been
with conditions where they
would workshop on the kitchen
and the soldiers and they're under
it.
Then this kind of
unfinished one with the blue tank on
top is the guest
house in the summer.
And the well,
that's
mostly the way
somewhere is the charge.
We don't do anything there.
And that one
is very bad condition.
It looks good, but it's very bad that
it it's
falling from inside.
So we don't know
forever.
And there's a spigot on Sunday.
The worse is if you want to leave it on
the speaker desk, he would be very happy.
And yeah, where it is is more or less
a word, colorful
ways. There's a bigger part
that is always a
risk of losing.
And so we're going to be so much there
that we can enjoy the space and
the animals
do and
and
the companies that roll their
ship over there on the
river.
And
so these are different images of
more modern and
broken places here,
and we try to
make them.
We do.
We are rebuilding, rebuilding.
So we have these space full of
rubble.
This is when the river grows
the canal
and
brings a lot of
erosion and stones on.
And he said the
river is suffering a lot
of problems with
the companies, Nuala
added.
Liver treatment companies, some paper
paper companies.
The company's smoking
of smoking paper
and
has the factory kilometers
upstream.
And
also the
big urbanization
happening in the whole valley
of the river that is 50 kilometers long
and its making is creating
much more erosion than before, the big
says. And now what it
does? A lot of things come in the river.
It is not like it used
to be.
It's all about technology and
what we say that we want to do that
is open grassroots development,
resilient and sustainable technology
because we think a technology
is not neutral
and
that the way
who is
entitled to to develop
the technology will also put
the way of thinking on how the technology
works now and whether you head
use for or what are the goals
for it.
So for us, it's very important that the
technology development happens
between the people that uses that
technology.
And so we want to create
a place
where people can develop
their own their own tools
and also that it
is sustainable.
We have a lot of thinking of
kids
thinking of kids
all the time in.
I want to move
their way that moves them
on.
And in the same model, they,
for example, many times they
have gloves, are inside a squad
or what we are collectives.
I make web pages of people.
We also cover all the
different collectives of the
cooperatives.
Eleanor do that
give us a set of
problems to address and then
for us, very, very interesting.
And we also have relationships with
the town
and
with the school and with
whom we are creating a little
node of the of the cooperative or trying
to do in our immediate
surroundings. That is the Komaki.
I know.
And we try to do
see what to do with the local resources,
like the ones we have already heard
where they can be used for.
Well, this is a more or less what happens
to you if you get
transplanted from a love to this kind
of space now?
We we try to
create an environment of learning
fluoridation. We do.
And is
it because we do know, but
we try to organize the spaces in
a way that everybody can see where the
things
are?
And welcome new people on the
on the groups.
And also we,
for example, the people of the community
can come together to build up
things, to build things with us.
We have sold the Ring Workshop,
Carpenter and Carpentry
Workshop.
And we also
try to follow this model of
sharing
knowledge and
preparing of it. The situation of an
educational and
people. People help us to
build up, and then we also they learn
to build. So we organized a workshop
on an
Earth plastering and we plaster
the house of worship on.
So we put the people to work in exchange
of all
of
this knowledge, and he's working very
well. Everybody's happy with this
exchange.
I have to say, when I do, I go to,
as you say, what the pictures.
So the previous picture
here is the water group is
doing for what
you do in.
Some very big pictures.
He was
OK.
Not going to read your.
So we.
Are you done?
The water group has been doing a lot of
forensics on how the water was working
before and how
they were generally works.
And the idea of these
we are used to this comes in water with
pressure and then everything is
different.
The sea fawns on
gravity
and
I mean,
we use the gravity to move the water
instead of pumps.
It is exactly like here.
And so here we are finding
different found down some things.
There are a lot of catacombs under
colorful.
We also have a lot of neighbors
come to visit the place that they were
born there or we're working there,
and they help us to find out.
They found some of the things and how
he was working.
And this is a workshop room.
So we are cooking we the
floor for a meeting where
people is testing
this on.
I don't know if it's really worth the
review.
And this is a right now
we are in a moment in which we have
created basic infrastructure
after two years.
We must always have a kernel of people
that knows each other and knows
how to kill each other.
We're working
on,
but we we need still more
people working in specific
projects.
And there's a lot of
industrial space for workshops on
start doing things.
Another thing that is happening to us
is that we are spending much
more time than we thought we would into
all this infrastructure that
we were using to take care of
us sewage
water treatment
and in
energy
production
and all these things usually we just
plugged from from the streets.
And now we have to go on to
the old
apartment
before the housing.
So we are learning a lot.
And we are starting there and some
projects are starting and
we are going to mention it.
Oh no.
And so what we have been working on
lately and seeing where we
are working on efficient
engines and
fuel engines with these hydrogen
injections
and adopting the
diesel engines to
use a used cooking
oil
that we have a lot
in Spain, there's a long tradition
of the Barzun and
everything. I don't know how it's going
here.
We are also working on efficient
heating and with
the rocket stoves, we
stoves in the houses and
in well in general, not in the houses,
but in our colorful.
We are trying to
do so solar cooking in the summer
because we think it's very
it's sustainable and the growth
in these energy's
very clean and
we are all children and working
on food, the dehydration,
which is sort of the
green technology for food storage.
We are we have the ram pump
and everything, and we
make soap because it
was very expensive, the use of
soap. And also we had this problem that
we had a lot of oil.
So we are making
soap now and
we are working off it remediation,
which is using plants for
specific to clean up the water
because I say we have
contaminated the river
because of the company's upstream
on a contaminated
land, because the companies are wearing
colorful.
Well, we need to
and we
are going to plant food there,
but we can plant in transit
a clean and maybe
produce something.
We are building a lot of willow
right now.
Then what we have,
we are we have a high level
to where we can
project the only radiation
network that is just
there, where a bunch of us as an
excellent
service for
free.
And we have also people working in
social networks in the area is
a collective that works on
a long term visions of health.
I don't know if you know, and minus one
is there is also part of the came
from the lab
project, too.
Then we have a more old school technology
that we have a kiln foundry.
This guy is making this sound there.
We have a carpentry workshop where
we make marmalade.
And there's this guy that makes moment
because we
skip a lot of food or ways,
and that's what we have.
We calculate value in the summers,
and home marmalade started happening
contingent.
Now it is more on
in economic activity of a person.
And then we do a lot of
cognitive production.
We make documentaries, we
develop software, we design
and document and we
make performances.
There's something good going on, too.
And we we like to do
a lot of workshops and
informative events.
This is one of the ones,
the more important ones.
Well, anyway, uh,
this is an event we do in Eastern.
It's about the technologies
and forum
eco villages mainly, you know, a lot of
people that is creating projects
outside of the of the city.
And there are a series of,
well,
there are very important machines and
that need to be built in
these places. And we we we
work on this together.
And so
why am I here
telling all this to you
that you look like you
go to these places with
him because we need to know whether we
had already more or less fixes these kind
of things we would like to
to have a single layer
of of projects there joining in.
And we want
people to use this phrase.
We want people to visit, yeah, but
also two to three projects
to do get interested
in something in particular and
to do that needs money
and materials.
Everything you need to dump,
you can then be there.
Not every, you know,
every route,
every word
of.
Or maybe if you need the Oh my god,
I don't know how development
is and you can go there.
It's very nice.
You can talk about the project.
You can start a similar project.
What is after visiting I stand
for as it is very important to create
an exchange, know then and
to also get new
ideas coming from from outside.
Yeah, now we are ready for more.
These are the things we are doing the
next month, we are preparing a meeting
on plastic because
we've done some experiments.
Once we did, then we didn't
throw the garbage for two months
and
there were. So we have decided we have to
do something with plastic now
because most of the things
we do.
And these are the most garbage
we produce right now.
The plastic we we
take care of our
teeth daily
with, we think of
the in the kitchen waste
of the wood waste
and
we got to use, for example, to
treat the wound so we can
we can solve it so
that we can throw to the garden.
We what we need.
The problem is the plastic.
And so we are going to
do things all together with this
plastic, you know,
and
we are preparing and preparing
a meeting out there for this
meat sysadmins
on felt animals
and servers.
So what that means in
servers, no services
in general.
And we we
are preparing
the end of March.
And I don't know if you know
Marcel Marceau is coming to
make these books candidates who we
are going to have a digital public if
we are recover a little.
Of course. No, I just have.
We will fight where we would like
to to enrich
the Commons.
And then the eclectic the carnival
is also happening in August three this
year, which we are really happy
for, especially this time
it's a no go and only so we can
attend.
And yeah,
we always are organizing things
on this permanent
workshop or.
Well, I think that's it.
Fifteen minutes of
police questions.
So we have 20, 20
minutes left for questions, please queue
behind the microphones here and here.
And we also probably have questions from
the internet, so we start
with microphone one.
OK.
Jessica, could you explain three
little points?
One, I guess it's a kind of occupation.
It's a squat structure.
So you occupied
the the building.
We are back in this timer.
Yeah, but no. But just to compare it to
the well, what do my other friends
across the across the
world?
What are the relationships?
Who's the owner of
that land or property?
And how did you build the kind of
relationship if you did with them
second thought?
Were you able to build up a good,
strong relationship with the neighbors
like they did in us, in Canada?
And we, I guess you get your
food from Canada, among
others?
No, we're not.
What does it come? Your food, for
example, as you can cultivate anything
there, you
can grow anything.
So the first question is how
we handle the owner.
Yeah.
So the occupation, the
the the whatever
is not an
occupation it never came to
to to put you out or to,
you know, we're buying this
thing, the
the owner and
he's very old.
And so he made this a
hydro electric turbine
there, and he
really likes the property.
And he wanted to give the turbine
and the canal
and
he wanted to sell the rest.
Nobody wanted to buy just the rest.
And no, the canal
ran. The all over he had was
to make the place to burn garbage.
And another thing I
didn't say is that the the
land is qualified for industrial
use.
That is very important
for us, and
that's why they call the burning garbage
there. And he leaves the very
nearby.
And he said he could not do something
like this to his own down.
And so he left it.
And I don't know, he's of it all, and
he got this sensitive.
He like does.
And though, you know, he's
dividing the property into two birds.
And so he gives this hydroelectric
plant,
which is giving him
around
five thousand euros per month.
So he wants to give these.
Or maybe we might someday,
but it's going to be quite expensive
and we have the rest of the
colony. He comes every day we can.
We he got something to do
and we have a lease
on the property.
We made a big payment,
so he
gets his own mortgage
and then clear, then start
with the separation of the
property.
Now we are in the lease for 10 years.
And where do you get your food?
The food from
many, many different sources come as
they was very far away.
I know the president looks forward to it
here, but it would be
like the 20 years of
fuel to go and come back, and
we have other projects nearby.
We buy a lot of really bad food
too,
and we don't buy a lot of organic food.
We try to know in the summers.
And then with him,
many
like we buy a lot of meat
and things like these from the
supermarket
and
the neighbors.
And yeah, we buy
the neighbors, our brothers in and we
are starting a vegetable garden
nearby, not in
our land, but a community garden
and a nice place with water
and and.
OK, microphone to make, please
make sure to speak.
Do you have children at the project?
We have some children in the project
there.
They we have more and
a lot of people decided to leave because
it was very difficult to collaborate with
the project and they could not move
there so soon.
And many of them have said that they are
going to come back.
Now we have a
couple of children living there that are
not in school yet.
One has one year, then we have
it in the town nearby, this
hug with
a girl
that is part of the project, but they are
living in a flat in the town
and in the summers.
We have many children visiting,
but they are not living there.
The parents come with them is not is
very unsafe for children there.
I'm going for that with maybe birds,
especially depending on the age.
Can be dramatic.
But yeah, we want to have more, we have
all people.
What I know is the infrastructure
is preventing a lot of people to
participate and luckily
children
and people with parents are
walking and
and
people with psychological problems
have also gone to leave, but by
themselves, not because they couldn't
handle this.
Regarding the
UN
is really you is southern.
No, you have to be close in.
It's very hard.
Right now, the idea, of course, is to
do to have a set of ages.
Okay. One question from the internet.
Hello.
And so we have, uh,
multiple questions.
Um, one is about,
uh, that to give
in the context of the crisis,
I was trying to hack the
political system to increase,
uh, participation in society.
And the second one is about,
um, permaculture.
So what I would like
to know what what elements
of permaculture do you apply in the
current colony?
And specifically, if you are trying
to maintain a stable and increasing
energy return on energy investment
and that
that's OK enough for one run so
you can answer
the question, I don't know is that with
the
LEGO for a politician like?
Yeah.
And
the second one is, well,
we
usually use to design
farms.
But actually, that system is her
design system for design
and
technique or a series of
off design buttons for any kind of
system.
And the we use these
these, for example, of
a
dying to see what to do with the
resources we have
there and
make
them.
And the
problem is this solution like them
that we are making soap because
it's permaculture because we had two
problems and then we have a solution
for the research and
we try to to
to use our own and
and put elements on our system
to serve more than one function.
Also, there are different
design principles of the culture that
we try to apply, like
what are the three basic principles of
permaculture? There is a take
for the Earth, the take
for the people and share this
food, plus the three basic
principles of good children and we
try to follow them
to.
OK, great.
Microphone one place.
Yeah, thanks for the inspiring talk.
I've got a question about the currency
you mentioned. You said it's the Echo.
And my question is, how is it
related and connected to the currency
around you?
Do you have any taxes that have to be
paid when you exchange back
to them on the outside?
Or do you just can you can you just
use it inside the projects you
were mentioning
and then
the currency we use, it is
a system that's developed
many years ago in South Africa,
and
that was it.
We use for that by the Echo networks
of Barcelona before they go into
the detail and into the
community exchange system.
Horrible various fee obligations.
But they're really nice people.
And so you can set up your network
of exchange and you decide
if because on currency, if your currency
has any relationship
with you, with the normal currency
and with the normal, we're there with the
bank currency.
And so we have decided
nothing.
So there are several different
networks like the Barcelona.
They go to do and do that one.
No, the one we're having
slothful on,
for example, the one we have to fold a
network of onoja
or local network has decided to call
and reverse
the the money.
They are not big, but they are the same
value that they close and
we say that is one euro
when you go.
But this is not.
This is just a convention.
We have said this is not
something that is on this system.
We sometimes make a make
a party
affair and
we're people that it has not
done an account on
our system.
They can buy the local paper
echos and then change them.
And depending on the network, you can
put the little tags also
in our local network, and they have
decided to put four percent of
taxes.
And this money goes to go on,
goes over the whole network.
They are starting. They plan to take it
out when they come.
But some things they want to buy and
they want to fix a place in
in in undervote that nearby town,
city
and nearby city where
there is a store now and they want
to fix it, so they need some money.
So they have applied the
dunks
in the housing assembly.
Everybody said yes and
but it's not related,
really.
There is no exchange buck
OK, microphone to.
And my question is if you
had any problems within the community,
maybe some new or newly
arrived people brought problems
or were just
there to use your resources but
will not contribute in your system.
Work as usual.
OK, no more.
And how did you
get rid of them? So you just, uh,
it depends on the person.
OK?
Is it just demoralization?
Sometimes the flicks are too big
and you have to take a decision.
It's very hard also to know if
a person is going to work
in the rest of the community or not.
So
we don't have a rule with these.
We try to apply rules and make
rules, and then there are always
exceptions.
We are a very young community.
We try to resolve conflicts.
But physical violence against the
people, the people
against the persons is for reason.
Yeah.
OK, thank
you. So if you have somebody, you have to
leave
for,
this is like this.
OK, well, thank you.
So another question from the internet.
You don't have to put up a microphone,
and there are two very
simple questions, one is asking
if there is a week with more
documentation about the various projects
in full.
And the other is asking
how fast is the internet connection in
California?
I'm very glad you asked the question
because I forgot to mention a very
important collective one that is
supporting us, that is within it.
And that is I said then it will
go for
what
is a very long story with the sense that
there is a network of different awareness
projects that now are becoming
very,
very strong and they are giving very
good connection. They put an and then we
had internet before electricity.
They were always very supportive
and supportive, and we have
a really
steering
and
we have an I don't remember
exactly right now where we have a program
and we did because of the humidity.
We have one point eight.
Visa is the distance to the
other and then we have
one of these. And I know station
thing is one
thing goes very well,
quite stable
and we
have fun.
And so
sometimes we have problems within
the internal network to many other means.
You know how it goes.
Usually, if you go there is working with
the this is the human
factor,
the the bottleneck,
the we have
too many elements
and and the question about the wiki
and
the wiki, we have an open
door web page and also
and
come back
very.
What are you doing?
OK.
Mm hmm.
Well, maybe in the meantime, already a
microphone, one can pose a question.
Yeah, I had another currency related
question. So the context,
the context I had heard about colorful
was was actually bitcoin.
If you look at the
website of the cooperative, there are
like two articles about bitcoin.
And then there's bitcoin, which
is an alternative implementation of
bitcoin, which says it's colorful
project and some people living in the
cooperatives have worked on it.
And there's a dark wallet, which says
it's it's endorsed by
Andy Duran, which is a
normalization of the Bitcoin protocol,
and that's something I have really
trouble wrapping my head around because
if there is such an ideology behind
bitcoin, then it's more anarcho
capitalist or libertarian.
It's totally not what I associate with
the story you.
So I'm not sure whether there was debate
within the cooperative about
bitcoin. And could you tell me, could you
tell us a bit more about it?
I'm glad you asked this question.
Well, where we give
autonomy to the people, the working,
whatever they think is important
to know.
And of course, the and
there is people working on bitcoin and
colorful.
I don't know if you'd say I don't think
we haven't talked in assembly to
address this issue like a
whole project.
But it is.
I mean, they are doing it there.
They are
staying for a while
there,
but
they will use the other money.
They say there's a high level
there they will be, but is going,
No.
They are seeing bitcoin now.
Some of them lost.
Some of us.
So it's not officially endorsed
by the cooperative
when we don't have an endorsement policy,
neither. And so we don't know exactly
what endorsement is.
They are leaders, and so
they are living in glove, although I
guess we are somehow endorsing
the project.
Oh, but there
is no day that we decided that
we going to be gone with it more like a
normal thing.
OK, thanks.
So Microphone two, please
put it down a little bit.
The microphone like no.
Have you had to physically defend the
space at all, like recently from cops
or other pigs?
Well, when we arrived, we had
this issue
because there was no,
not a lot of corporate anymore, but there
was this phone.
And so it was in a way they would come
some dodgy people
and
we are dodgy.
And so
they were
like, We are working
here.
No, no. We live here.
No, we
don't.
But has that?
Yes. But we are buying,
you know, buying.
We are buying.
Yes. But no, they don't come anymore.
Yeah.
Whether they said no, but
it was OK. No, no survival.
And then we had this kleptomania
guy from the town
where he, yeah, he gave
us everything
again.
OK. Do we have another question from the
internet?
So if
my German is good enough to
understand this Twitter and
somebody is asking if, uh, people
who do not work can or
cannot be thrown out from the community.
Do not work
for just.
His hand is hovering.
The question is very binary with
binary question.
I think the
question is meant in the way that if
you are not able to work
for, for instance, if you're if you're
a child or something, are you thrown
out of it?
Are you thrown out of the community or
or if you're if you're disabled
or if you if something prevents you from
being if you're a
role, you always
know,
no way we don't have a
real policy of disabled.
And usually the people that kind
of work because they're the ideal.
They don't want to go there because
you have to work,
not work,
for example, but you have to work a lot.
And this if you are if you have
a broken leg or something, we have got
situations of where members
of of the colony that
they were.
I'm sorry, I put the weakest
link on the screen.
Maybe I can make it.
It's corporate.
You've got equal
x a r x
e stops cut,
but maybe you can treat it or something.
Easy decision the view
in the
D.C.
area.
No.
OK.
Can we take another go with this still
and make it a little one known and finish
to this new very
good drugs?
And no, we we don't
go to people. That is not it's
not going to work.
And we also have
a lot of people burn out, too.
There's a lot of work to
do, and
so many times there's people.
There is no working in a moment or
another. They need to rest, they need to
run and they need to party
as
long as they don't do it all the time is
not a problem. No, everybody
has to do it.
OK, we take microphones two at the
end. So you are not standing
there the whole time without purpose.
Yeah. How do you decide things
and who does decide and,
for example, to how you distribute
your resources?
How do your decision processes work?
We have a big assembly, or
yes,
we have our weekly assembly and we work
by consensus and
depending on the moment.
First, we had a bigger
picture of
every
work. We had a meeting in the morning and
within the
evening, every day when
we when we ended, no.
Later on, we divided on working from work
groups.
Now we do
a mix of both.
And we are starting to realize
as we have had to move to the
summer and winter.
And so maybe soon we are going to
a structure this with this
because it's always a good negotiation, a
moment in which a lot of people
start coming that don't know what to
want to help.
I don't know what to do.
And then there are moments like now that
they are not so many guests, and so
you can do it in a more informal way.
But the assembly is every Sunday
on Teague's, and
we are working on and
try to work a consensus based decision
making.
And who is we?
Are these always the same people?
That is the uncertainty
and people.
The reason we can come in for the first
time is invited to introduce
themselves and learn about the
collective.
And tell us everybody they think
about everything because maybe we talk
about this and and
who
we take the good mother to
the godmother is to introduce the people
on the organization and explain
it. And then as well, the
more time you have on the on the place,
then
the more
you can
design.
So this is sort of an initiation
process. When you have been long enough
in this community, you
get to decide.
You also get to decide.
There is no talk is not so clear.
We made one say we made
some
and
some decisions are strategic
decisions about this.
These topics like, um,
how the energy is generating
and shares are going to be
decided by the public as productive
bridges and the people that lives, who
who's living there is going to be to
about these in the end.
We have to get a lot of decisions right
in the. But are these the assembly,
the assembly everybody talks and.
Yeah.
Many times it is not just me who takes
the decisions, but what happens is a
and people that it hasn't been long
enough and proposes things that
we already tried and it didn't work.
We say, Look, no, we did that last
year
and we this
is more about information.
Thank you.
OK, thank you very much.
Before you leave the room, like, grab
your your ways
and your bottles, and please leave the
room only through the door and from
like so people can go inside
the room from the other side.
And thank you very much again
for the.
Thank you, Steve,
for inviting us.