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The main idea of this is,
as you will see in the slides, I'm
not like all your developers over here
and we're having these very clean code
with all the commands you need.
Easy to read, easy to to do.
My slides are kind of fucked up,
mainly because my arrival was
the last slide was edited about 20
minutes ago.
So excuse me, typos and something
like that.
And the idea of this is and
I consider myself never
a hacker.
As for example, I don't know how
to click to yes,
and exactly because of this,
I'm neither a software engineer
and Neila, I do
things my relatives
would consider coding.
I wouldn't dare to say it here.
Stealings, scripts and something like
that.
Um.
What I do was introduced by
little stage manager, Sunday Morning
Herald, hired by the
Herald while I was freckling around
with my notebook.
Oh no, my daughters, by the way,
mine has no proper output
for the display.
By the way, the second sentence of
the describing of my daughter after that,
it was but the relevant thing
is and then she starts with the funny
things. I loved that because I couldn't
have done it up front because everything
was messed up.
I ought to build.
We convinced us that in Germany
it's legally the stuff
I rebuilt my house and sing.
So but actually
HeartWare first thing is
how do you find interesting projects?
I recommend to say,
oh, that might interest me if you're not
interested in it.
It kind of wouldn't work out, I guess
so, of course, the easiest way
to make open-Heart when some kind
happened is crowd funding.
This I don't know who knows about this
device. It's it's it's
a project on Hecate.
It's a little Adreno device.
It has an outlet screen,
if I remember correctly, and touch
field. And
it's an offline password.
Keepa you
are most of us I see are very
young and can remember all the passwords
and usernames.
I'm too old for that.
And this device is
nice because it acts
like a normal keyboard to use the
output for that.
It's an admin based smart
card reader only screen.
So it's kinda I still
don't know what it is. I say it's free
factors because you need the device
on your credits are stored
encrypted in that.
With this shit, I always
have to read up and have a slight
idea of what that means and you need
to smartcard.
And trappin for your smartcard.
So from my counting is three
other people only call it to because of
the smart card and and
PIN, I always get confused with that.
Never mind. I said, that's fine, because
I hang around on so many and
sometimes I stumble upon I
was I locked in here.
Do I have a card.
I don't know.
And maybe this will help in the future.
And for people who are interested
in that, that's
what sort of smart card it is.
No idea what that means.
Develop and Hockaday and
the filming was done through Indiegogo.
I guess that might be the first type
on the slides.
Um,
so they did
it kinda in the right way, I think,
because they started already.
Hecker's I guess. I guess.
Hecate They quicksort.
Who knows that I take a day.
Yeah I get that much so
I kinda get on cold turkey
if I don't read it two or three days.
And so I was kind
of existing community, lots of input
and contribution from the, from the
community saying oh it would be nice of
that with size and all
this. And they had working prototypes
which I really recommend to look
out Kickstarter awesome.
Hasn't and often failed
with projects I don't where
there aren't prototypes,
even those are the funding kind
of get close to failing.
And then you come to a point, if I
ever were to campaign,
I would think about nice
perks to do something like,
Oh, I really want this, but I don't want
to buy two devices for one hundred
and fifty euros. Maybe there's a little I
can add to, or if several people
do so it will happen
and they actually have that.
They allow you to design your own
smartcards.
What you see here is actually artwork
of a colleague of mine
and some weird fonts
I found the upper one is
something Bernard Shaw
invented and the other
one is Shadow from
Babylon five.
Some mice.
No, um.
It nearly failed anyway,
it was not discussed.
Oh, do custom perks and but
they choose wisely because
the Indigo Girls allowed to expand that
line.
So if you aren't sure about that, you
may think about maybe
I want something with a deadline that's
allowed to expand for reasons or
maybe there is something where you don't
have to reach a goal and communicate
what happened.
Yeah, that is a fucked
up slide, uh,
OK. Next thing, crowdfund,
I did that with a with a
multi multipart and I did.
It was in a way and I guess I didn't
have to explain that much about
the Nubeena project.
And I think Bonnie's blog is known by
enough nerds.
I, I kind of stumbled in a different
way about it.
Sometimes I look at what open hardware
is there. And when I found
it very early as he was driving us
as a hobby project,
I think I stumbled across.
I told a friend about another
project and that was on.
So this is when and I said, oh, maybe you
have given this project a
look. He makes a little gathering
and he had these prototypes.
Here was only two
wasps and bunnies and
they showed it around and ask people.
And that's very important because if you
want to do you finally want
to do something people actually want
to have.
And that will only happen if you talk to
them. Otherwise, you have to do this
weird stuff companies do.
We are guessing and we are doing
marketing and afterwards, if they
fail, we just convince the people they
want to have it anyway.
So I think it's better
to do it the other way around.
So crowdfunding
started, we have a motherboard
only was one thing than the desktop
thingy, which you just, Kerrianne have to
plug in.
Then there was a laptop version where you
had a battery,
a little daughter bought with tools,
all the
charging and recharging stuff of
the battery, taking billions of the
gas goc and so on.
And I really like
to have one of those.
But five thousand dollars was a bit
over my budget.
I actually saw one.
Bunny has some.
It's really beautiful things.
So does anybody see the missing link?
Imagine you want to buy a notebook
of your own.
You have the main board,
but you must have better management
board.
So you can't have it, and
that was kind of one of those guys and
said, yeah, OK, I come
back to this better remote, we hear about
it later on.
So meanwhile, I said, OK, then about the
board, that's affordable and I have the
board and then I look, maybe it's open
hardware. Let's look how it works out.
So that's really easy.
You.
Contribute to the crowdfunding, the
crowdfunding and the things get
produced, packed and sent.
That's very easy until you
stumble across these guys
at customs for those English speaking
kids.
So it's kinda
the multiple spent my
multipart spend five
weeks in Frankfurt for reasons
I really can't understand.
So I still think I might
ask around in the form, how
can I figure out if nobody to
put weird stuff in it to spy on me.
So I'm kinda
not comfortable with that.
And I said, yeah, that would be fun when
the Navina arrives and suddenly it said,
oh, I caught them.
Yeah, I found it about
half a year ago.
I have no idea which way I paid it.
You never mind was it.
Oh that was crowdfunding or it was
Kickstarter and you know there are a lot
of spots on the platform.
Try to climb that.
Yeah. Yeah. Just send us a screen.
Shots described Ultimate and worked on
a K on the one hand.
Five weeks on the other.
Yeah. Yeah, no problem. We know about
crowdfunding. These guys are normally
kind of behind.
So crowdfunding they
don't know.
So I was really proud of it.
So conclusion is they are completely
unpredictable.
Um,
my daughter has a
girlfriend and she came up with a
sentence that might best fit these guys,
kill them with kindness.
I confess I fail half
of the time, but they seem
to have a training how to make people
really angry with you sentences.
And I tried to get so, you
know, any time you get something across
borders, you need to figure out how it
works this time.
Um, oh, another factor.
So the idea is, is use the
right platform, look
which one works for you, your project,
um, communicate as
much as you can before in
forums and on CCC events,
whatever, so that you find out what
people like and want to have
everywhere.
Assets and a project came from
two directions. One, I didn't even expect
that I would come back that way.
Is the community really existed
before? It's a lot more helpful.
We come to that later
and sometimes it's essential.
It was too fast, never mind, so
that was the crowd funding fund.
This is kind of the beginner's part
and the next part is kind
of learn from others.
I guess some of the people
having a Pandora aren't waiting for
waiting for the right in the audience.
Now, from some I actually know
this is not something I really
did, but this is a nice project
to look and learn things, how
things fail, how you correct them.
And we've gone through that right now.
The storyline of this is
they started from gaming
related gaming handhelds,
and that wasn't a Nintendo
all the way. I really had no contact
in this area with anything.
And then there were
devices like the one on the right side.
And then the hacking started because you
had a point where you can link in.
These are smart media cards.
Half of you wouldn't know about
a scene without looking it up in
Wikipedia.
It's now SD cards
and.
And then there was a game
that had an embedded Linux kind
of.
And it was an accident from
the producers, they just don't really
know about it, and there
was a lot of hiking with these devices,
which I didn't know about before I found
the Pandora project.
There were several derivates of it,
and there was a big community
about that.
And the next day was about
open hardwares.
Just think about
how can we build something really big?
And that's what the what the guys of
the community from the handhelds did.
They simply said it was original,
an April Fool's joke to say,
oh, what was a perfect
gaming console look like?
And then they started, Oh, I want
keyboard and I want that and that and
that.
And it just was added.
Yeah, well, why not?
And so they sorted out what
might be realistic, what is useful,
what's really doable.
And they actually found 3000
people spending 300 euros
completely aware that it would take.
Several lot
of months, maybe several years,
I think in the end, much
longer than they expected,
and that was the idea what
it should look like.
It's a kind of.
Be ahead and my friend.
I didn't found a better picture,
so it be that he was making
a mini computer using Linux
on its own, somehow
you I forgot I
have to look it up again.
It's not war.
And the hardware finally was freed
in 2015.
The project started in 2008.
The hardware was freed.
So devices were produced earlier.
So
there was or that there was
lots of beautiful things, like a little
PDF that was a hardware hacking guide
where you can look over a console here
and put it to this GPI
or make funny stuff with it and something
like that, and had two full sized
SD ports to USB port Wi-Fi,
Bluetooth touchscreen resistive,
which I like a lot more than
the other one
because your screen stays
clear clean.
It was so they started
already with an existing community, so
it was a complete community
project.
And as it added
to things missing on the other consoles,
you had to have a full keyboard.
To operate on so you can use it
for work as good as for gaming.
Um,
so that was
a kind of reminded me that
this slide is a work in progress.
I guess it's now done
so.
So there were several problems.
The first one, crazy
as it sounds, the first sort of
oh, how how expensive should it be?
And then they try to reach a goal.
That's a really bad idea.
And then they kind of still
have that completely figured out
in my head and they kind
of split the responsibilities they had.
Evil Dragon One who was very
active in the in the
two X forums, had an own
shop for these consoles and something
like that. And he was attached to take
care of the community and they
had another person in in Project
Lead.
So whenever something happens, he kind of
was only the guy communicating
to the community
then. Very, very bad
trick is.
If you have one guy designing the case.
And the producer on a different
continent, I think in this case,
as well as the designer, was an
American and they tried to
produce it at low cost in China.
These things.
I think they only can fail because
whenever you have a problem, the designer
says, oh, yeah, yeah, the producer guy is
doing it wrong. I said, Oh, no, no, no.
We know about producing.
You did something wrong in the design
and then you have.
Half of the time
lag in between, you have probably
one or three languages
in between.
So if you have somebody
you personally know in
China, in the producing company, that
might work.
But this setup didn't.
So the case cases kind of had a
problem all the time.
Then he dropped his old school
job. I canceled my day job
and tried to earn the money.
Is that also a bad idea?
And because of that, because he kind of
was all this must work,
he kind of started to not tell
people about the problems.
He kind of was anxious that he
he he loses trust from the community.
The thing is, quite the opposite happens.
Yeah, and if that's not enough,
of course, if it started
that way, it goes only
down from there and he even
tried to hide that
and said, oh yeah, we have problems in
delivery. If you pay about
not 240, but 440,
you will be a privileged and get
one of the first devices.
And finally,
that came to the total stop.
And to mention the Evil Dragon
took over the project, too.
And so now some of these things out.
And first thing he did is, OK, what
went?
They want their frozen.
Yeah, that yeah,
that's what I meant.
Oh, sorry, um, the
fund was frozen.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was really as
many as could go wrong, did go wrong.
And so everyone started to say, OK,
I was bound to this point and now
I'm taking project and it's stuff that
went wrong, that went wrong, that went
wrong. And I have several ideas how to
to to get this done.
First thing was he took the production
to Germany, which is, of course,
more expensive to produce it here.
But he says it's about 20
minute bicycle ride to the facility
where they produce the PCB board.
So whenever a problem happens, is that
on the instant?
Um.
And he communicates
everything whenever there
is something I have some kind
of idea and he can't
be sleeping anyway, um,
and whenever he comes to a problem.
Five minutes later, it's a post
in the forum.
And that builds trust because they say,
OK, of course, there are problems, but
what if we know about it?
We might even help.
And that happens a lot, nearly
the whole software.
And for the new project,
there wouldn't have been a keyboard if
not a hint from the forum members.
He took investors to get
rid of the of the pressure
to to.
To have so he got more time,
basically, we said, OK, we have to
rely on him and he.
Even so, so now the guy said
kind of hanging in there by the others
because they had two selling points,
his kind of word and the other font
front. So I think
in 2000,
10 prodrug
or 2011, finally
the first time ISIS came out.
So two or three, three
years after the first starting point.
And there are still guys
hanging in there because they
still didn't get the devices
I gave money for in 2008.
And you would recognize
kind of a person who even.
Hold them, they say, OK, if you're doing
it, we are patient and wait even longer.
So community is a center
even better when it exists at
one point, for example, is this
it's kind of something the developers
will most likely understand past.
That's open source driver
for one of the glass chips
that was originally invented for
the Pandora and was then taken over
in the.
Debbie in.
Three, I, if I remember correctly,
am not that deep into it,
um.
Direct consumer input is good, things
can go wrong anyway, as I showed.
Of course, it was developed partially
by the future consumer, so
you have no
steps in between.
These is development
and what they did.
They made it very easy to contribute.
They made a known kind of package
to impose upon.
So it was very easy to convert all retro
gaming or retro games
and had a system where
everybody just could copy it on the list.
You can't collect it in independent could
play.
And the last step just.
It was on Christmas emerged
all the forums, the GP
to access and Pandora and a new paper
so that they are all in one place, so
that you have to follow the history at
one place to look at
the software development
is done.
I say 90 percent of the community.
You know, a few shots
of what there is,
that's just the most
downloaded apps that are there, just
just to hint you, what happens?
There are a few screenshots of nearly
a thousand games development, 60
of these utilities,
all you want to play around with the open
hardware and Linux device you can
imagine.
So when you come
to a point where it's kind of
difficult to produce things because
certain chipsets aren't produced
anymore, and at that
point he said, yeah, well,
we can't produce them anymore.
We have about 200
left we can produce.
How will that success look like?
And they started discussions that will
keep the good things and fix the bad
ones, you have to endure a lot
of communications.
There are about 30
threats about the keyboard layout.
The problem with that is you can only
afford one keyboard layout
and this small amount of devices
and then you have the problem.
You have German, English,
French guys all contributing a lot.
So you should listen to them to lose
them. I kinda lose
interest and said there will be a mapping
somehow and then I'm forced
to learn typing blind, which
I want to do for about 20 years now
and didn't manage
to survive.
Maybe the device is forcing me to
um.
They then said,
well the next problem was a case
design and he simply sent a letter
designed by a company.
So it's kind of hard to blame someone
else. Oh, the company did.
Yes. It's the one you work for.
The machines are right to your next door.
You should get it done.
And it works perfectly.
And it's now in Greece.
And he said that's fine, because if
there's a problem, if I have to go, there
can simply fly there by plane.
That's from Germany to Greece.
That can more easily than to go to
China and they speak English and
German. So the communication
is a lot better that.
Um, the PCB
design was done by Nicholas Shalal,
lots of you will know he's the one who
made the last upgrade of the
mobile phone and his own company
developing better Linux
devices.
And so they took him in to
make the PCB design for the new
one.
Um, they even let
live kind of near and
Nicolas's living near to the producing
company of the PCB board, see if there's
any problem.
And he just goes
over there and fixes.
And from what he learned before,
he said, well, was my other job
and the selling of the demise of the
gaming devices and so on, I think
I have enough money to finance
the until the prototypes.
So he said I will never.
I will take money from you.
When I was working prototypes, not
before that idea,
five working prototypes, I can calculate
what prizes it might be
in the end and have a
wooden fail on that point.
Um, the next step
is the hardware is now upgradable.
You have a mainboard and you have a
doubt about where the SLC sits
on and the memory.
So the machine will be upgradable.
It might even be able to change platform.
So you can simply buy a hardware
switch, go from from um
to me or something like that.
But that's future talk first if you
have an extra
one and they have a as
a third PCMCIA for the display.
So if the display has a problem,
um, you can,
you don't have to change something on
the remote.
You have the same communication channel
and always will be Damián
instead of Angstrom because there's,
um, the, the NAND
storage was kinda too small
and it's now EMC
Chip
and uh, I
have to hurry a bit right now.
I see. So the main things, at
least from my view, it's, uh,
five, six, five, four, three, two.
Um, the interesting part is
there will be, um,
3G, 4G, LTE chip
on it.
But now we are having open hardware
and this trip is closed.
Lots of discussions again.
And the solution is
this chip is switched off
by completely cutting
the power on a grouping of the main
processor.
So it is off because it has no power.
I don't know of any other device having
that. And if are more paranoid,
you can get it without.
First mentioned eight
gigabyte E.M.S.
cheaper and now the
operating system will run.
Sounds nice.
That says nothing to me might be
to you. But the interesting part is
you have a volume real.
It's a resistor, a changeable
and you have hardware.
We can turn power.
I love that
the keyboard will get better.
It had three rows.
Now it will be backlit and
four letter buttons.
We can we will see that very
soon.
Six thousand million lithium
polymer and it's good for 10 hours gaming
as it's not now.
Guess that's what the backside
will look like. And there you see the
three lateral Belton's.
That means if you're typing on the
keyboard, you have all your modifiers key
on your fingertips too.
So you can do the modifier text with
two of your fingers and a keyboard with
some. That's very cool.
It will have an E.
Its output was an adapter to one of the
USB port. That's for space reasons
additional to the operating system
card. You have again two full
sized SD card slots
and it's all designed to be on the back.
What you can load on, plug it in
an incredible and use
it as a full desktop keyboard and monitor
because that HDMI to,
um, that's
a step in between.
On the right you see the old Pandora, on
the left you see the power.
It has now a bigger screen with the
configuration you see over there.
There's something about
these screens are produced for
four smart phones and
something, and they have to be portrayed
as something with technique to make
them landscape.
I don't understand.
So if anybody knows about the screen
with a landscape, might be is
over here somewhere and he's and
then next time and finds a display for
us.
Um.
And there we have it, that's a life
view of the production, I'd say
that's a few weeks ago.
The PCBs on the left are directly
the first one ever sold.
And the alternative is simply this.
The second photo is the one with from
the top to bottom is the CPU.
And the first one, yeah, they come out
here and they failed
then. And he said how they corrected.
The other one is a backlit keyboard.
They tested online.
And these are pictures of milling
the molds for the pyro
or nearly online.
He was then posted directly from the
facility.
Great.
There was this story,
it took about three posts, after all,
should be the success of the first one
came up and shut up and take my money.
And that started from day one.
And every time you said, oh, shut
up and take my money, I said, no.
I said no preorders
and no fixed released.
Every release went from like Debian.
And quite a
while ago. Is it OK for you guys
always crying around, shut up and take
my money and give you three 200
preorders? No, it was exactly
signed.
And eight of the prototypes the
developers developers don't need, they
will be 1400 euros,
the preorders, 290.
And the difference is when you get it.
And he said he thought he might sell
forty or fifty
three days and everything was gone.
That's what Trusters.
So because I know how you
remember the missing link, so I thought,
yeah, they did something, I think I
learned something. I did crowdfunding,
so.
First things for Barney to making
the floor was a better report, and that
makes me encouragement and said,
well, it's open hardware
supply, so.
I just need to find the info, the
producers and so on.
Easy.
And first
thing is, it might be polite to ask,
are you planning to produce them
otherwise? I produce them.
Maybe they might be pissed.
And so I ask him and he said, yeah,
go on. Nice, cool.
That's what openheartedness about.
So I get that inforce and
first I ask for the beer PCB
to say, oh, we populated ourselves
by hand or something like that.
Um, I have a very cool shortcut here.
My wife is working at the company doing
this.
So the other
day you're working there for 25 years.
Did you ever get some did you ever
take your fortune of that and go to
your show and ask, what is that?
We got that very cheap.
And she's actually at the point where you
collect the data and check
if they are producible, if there are any
errors.
Oh, that was
not an error.
There was a slight thing to improve.
I forgot what it was.
I have to ask and maybe pass it on to
one.
Um, then you ask.
I said I, I ask it, um, there's
something of you have a standard
measurement, you put through the machines
and you normally say, oh, you have the
standard measurement, how many boards
within it, then you have a price
for a whole lot to produce.
And I simply ask in the community, you
would say interest for that.
And there was enough interest.
And I said, so it's easy.
Make it, get it, send it down.
Yeah, produce it.
This is a picture of the nice board,
but then we might
be wise to buy these parts
and a lot, isn't it, because it's cheaper
than a.
Yeah, OK, let's look at it.
So it's OK to produce BCB,
you auto parts and not put them together
on. So then we're
done, right.
You have a lot of expensive
parts and so very small.
What about to ask, how much is
it to populate to?
OK, you guys are in for your surprises,
your order together, and then you're
done, right?
Um, yes,
nearly.
Um, because if you do something
like that, if you populate the boat,
you do it like it's on the left side.
This small piece as stolen
from the control room and
you see something that looks
like it's broken off after producing
and that is how they adjust
the bolts.
There are the signs and the boards
here and then the machine can know where
the actual component
is to be placed.
But that was already missing.
Up came
some of the companies said, no problem,
we can do it anyway, it's a bit more
complicated with every of this
information you communicate to the
producer and you go back to the community
will help. And that and that.
And it might be a bit more expensive.
Yeah, go on.
Um, so then
you go and you send them the bond
bill material, um,
and the next thing you get
from that.
Is easy described
by two words.
That's annoying.
OK, you go through it, Aspen, yeah,
everything's in metric, and the
interesting part I found to compare
is a.. So the first point
people normally stumble upon is this one
said, oh, might that be
a typo? Because the very small
one is saying we can't.
No, no, no. It's metric.
It's OK.
Not that we have the problem.
Not in another point
or another.
So, uh, yeah, you go
through it again
and that's it.
Out to metric.
Oh, for or to oh, no,
sorry, then we can't do it,
and it was back to the and said, oh no,
we had everything together.
Now they say they mixed up then Parian
to metrics so they can't do it.
Um, so
we won't get it.
And the interesting part is, if you
communicated what I learned from the
Pandora guys was no
problem, then it's purposive and we
populaton themselves.
And that was kind of something I said.
And it's so cool and so refreshing.
OK, I go on
and ask and search for the next
popularities.
For slightly higher prices and yeah, we
can do it, we have, um, we
need to use other points
to fix the board and then use
your testing spots on the board and
things like on so they can do it.
And then you're the same procedure.
Yes, then you are done and
one day these things actually
arrive populated at my home with the
two pictures from them
and I
did it very close
before the 31 C suite.
Um, I went to Bunging, and
that's one of the interesting points.
And so I imagine
I want a London phone.
I found the schematics and said,
oh, I want to build a massive area, go
on. And when I have done it, I go to the
chief developer.
OK, and inflation is a firmware.
Yeah, well, of course that's kind
of what's happened here.
I like this one. Much better
expect the other won't happen.
Um, so
sending it then it's a bit tedious work.
You have to pick 30 parts.
Look just a bit
of customs but it's easy.
You finally have to find a number to kill
them with kindness.
But I said, oh, if something like this
is, can you give me some number?
I have to write on the on the customs
declaration. It said, yeah, no problem.
That was kind of.
But then I looked
at my bank account.
And
it's German there at
AVMA, the Bundesbank,
there's something of Beeville, the
obligation of the
AWB, it's, um,
I it's something foreign
TransFair, some fencing.
What the fuck with this?
HotLink one, two, three, four.
One, one, one.
My spin triggered by that
and by the way, when I go
to the bank teller class, whatever
they want to say, I have something weird
here on my side.
Can you explain it to me?
Yeah, well, that's what's a guy who's
sending the money inside, so I don't
think so. He's Belgian.
I don't think he's telling me something
of the German Federal Bank.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, wait. I ask a colleague
I have some weird stuff here saying,
yeah, yeah. That's the stuff.
The guy who's sending the money.
No, he's Belgian.
I don't think he's writing me something
in German, but. Oh well let's
ask a colleague and.
But the third one was one.
Yeah. We are writing that down is the
obligation you have to if
you get a certain amount of money
from from foreign countries, you have
to report it.
I think it's something about washing
Dreux going to make money or
something.
Yeah, most likely
nine euros.
And that was a guy who was playing PCB.
There was one who wanted to ban PCB
anyway because he bought the components
already.
So it would have been
very easy to find that information.
I think the bank guys took
about 10 minutes Googling to find it
easy. You go to Bundesbank
Federal Bank, there's a point service,
there's a reporting system,
Mérida visa that even.
Not in light word for four
Germans, then there's external
data,
then you have eviction notices
and then you have cross-border payment
reports and there you find
who's subject to reporting requirements
and what information has to be provided.
Uh, yeah.
And then there it is.
If you have a mound of twelve thousand
for 500 euros,
then you have to report that you
get the money. And what for your nice
it's only 1388 transfers
of nine euro.
Yeah. Okay, to be fair it's only eighty
eighty for the better prices.
But that's kinda and
was um
so cool.
We are finally done
uh until
you find a guy in the phone said well I
got your battery bought but
it kinda has a problem.
OK, I transferred with
him, SOPs was
was looking into
it, reading, reading
logs and things, and it was kind of a
new idea.
So next nice point.
I planned the meeting with
Barney again, who designed the plan to
say, well, we have this real problem.
Would you mind if we look
it up? If I get some tools over there
and this guy in the nearby hackerspace,
Jokhang, he's he's kind of the quiet
guy. But if you ask him, I
know you have some experience with a
microscope and a soldering iron
was a fine tip. Yeah.
And he comes with about this aluminum
box of tools.
Then there was another guy who bought a
new Nubeena who was bringing his Nubeena
and and better and his
battery.
And we fixed that
yesterday was a lot of fun
to do, and it was important that
everybody involved was there, maybe
I was most spirited pop
out, Bunny
was looking at schematics it
provided we can bridge it to see
a report to find it and.
We find the are.
It was a resistor,
if I remember correctly, measuring
the voltage, and
it was labeled wrong.
It came from the rail and was one of
magnitude of.
We all did it and had it fixed,
do that with a broken Samsung phone with
the head of development over there.
So now we are done.
Yeah, until
somebody asks, oh, there's still boatlift
and no, but if there's
interest and it was
a week ago, there were 15 guys
going up against what I might do the next
one to.
It means probably it's never done,
but it's far.
So what you get back, the
people think you even if you say, oh,
they can't produce this, we are never
mind, thank you for your work and give us
a piece of interesting payment
and said it's 160 for the board.
And I suddenly had something to set
a world at.
Yeah. If something went wrong so that
you are not spending your money on it
and something like that, that's well.
Things that you produce.
What I designed.
I love it.
You have a lot of fun.
You get unique devices as you see this.
Pandor runs in Vienna.
Um, so some conclusions.
Mine personalities communicate,
have patience and this comes in the
end. Something good will come out, talk a
lot, start as a hobby, of course, to
not be in the kind of forced
situation, start
copying someone like I did the board.
Um, but calculate
spell the working battery
rebought was mine.
I finally gave it to the other guy with a
broken one and now I have one back
again.
It's a fixed one
release one ready and never had
problems worked
out for me. And so I
had to think a bit philosophical.
I suppose it was all it I,
I think so. It was fun.
So what to do for me, I think doing
this old stuff and that might even
stop me was not a lot of
knowledge to start one project, little
one start little ones.
I'm planning to do a little
import that can put
the old syncopate keyboards
to convert that. You can plug it in
on USB and not use it at a
movie or something like that.
So was it hacking?
Well, I didn't design
the board.
I didn't write a single line of
code. I know people who say that wasn't
hacking.
Um, yeah, well, I kind of
sometimes think,
um, it's like a carpenter
saying your plan, then you're not
a craftsman because you're using other
tools. I think for
my point of view is to bribe
them. If I teach,
for example, if I teach somebody a craft,
whatever, goldsmith smithing,
blacksmithing, whatever, I open
the gated community.
These were the communities.
When you finished your education,
you were forced to swear to tell nobody,
not you.
So I opened that a
bit. I guess, uh,
I see hacking as a state of mind.
Change something.
Do something yourself.
So finally I come to the
sense to let it out.
Of course, my children, they teach me
some lectures of interest, which
I didn't know who
didn't do it. Read the text
my daughter wrote about, about and
couldn't have come near to it.
And not five percent.
And the multiples developers, of course,
or the Pandora guys mentioned some
of the phone notes, of course, and
just read it through because we had time
kind of on a tight
schedule here and.
Oh, that was one.
Yep.
Ten minutes. So we have I
tried to get.
Yes, so things slide back,
so we have that in the background.
Yeah, thanks for the talk and thanks for
sharing all your experience points you
gained on your mission on the way to
these devices.
If there are any questions, please
go to the microphones on the left and
the right.
And are there any questions from
the Internet
at the moment? There are no questions
from the Internet.
OK, then.
So I
thought it was too confusing or too good.
You've explained everything, so
I'm sure no questions.
So why did I hurt you?
No questions asked,
what is next?
I guess I'm
first going for the
eye and look, I guess
there might be some more guys throwing up
now for the next Naveena Cenacle.
But if they are
if there's enough demand, I think
I can do that easily.
And there are no obstacles like you have
seen.
And I, I kind of like
that idea to first
up, the old palm foldable keyboards,
the mentioned little converting board
should be for work, for the foldable
keyboard to make them a USB device
and for the thing that I
think that keyboards to convert.
And yeah,
there is a question on the left
microphone.
Did you have any problems with the
EU recycling?
Uh, um, legislation?
Not yet.
But now the question is on the Internet,
thank you for this.
I think there was a talk at
one of the second conferences about
that, if you
want to look it up, it's on media.
Yeah, thanks.
Well,
there is a question, can you share best
practices to set the price, particularly
in Germany, might be much easier,
but might cost so much that no one will
buy it.
Um.
It's for the Pandora project.
It's not true, actually, and
the target price for the price of
600 euros and the people
growing up, as you have seen, three
days throwing money around.
So I think that's important
that the communication beforehand was
that they say this device is so
cool. And so that's what I wanted.
People simply say it's worth the money
and they know whenever you come back.
People like you, Dragon and like Bunny
are always determined to fix things
because I liked that we had two hours of
fun finding that the arrows
was imagined, the possibility
on a rail of resistance.
We had 30 balls and we picked
one for the resistance from that range.
That was ten times
off.
And we have some.
So then thanks a lot at the
end and give a shout out
to Mr. Please.