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And looking at the height and everything
to the Internet for a computer,
for microcontroller through SMS,
so I myself could be cheap, so use
that. So that's one example that what
these network, what this technology,
what this summit does.
But so that's that's
one of the product I just told the mobile
show, the monitoring, some slides about
that, but
they suddenly start 2007
and there was just some
it's just July
that happened just in December,
just one month, summer time of summer.
And one of the problems that we work
about social impact is
how can you keep the continuity of
the project, how you keep
it going and brought it coming
and keep going.
And from this moment, the ideas
become idea and they call
international develop.
Innovation Network is
an international network that work.
We just kind of project and become bigger
than just this summit.
And together, these
I like to I like to say about how
you can go up in the
design process.
So if you think about these summits, you
work a lot. If you design and design
what I mean, if I say design to design,
when I say design, choose.
So like I get some free
requirements, I talk to some people.
I came to my place and I produced
technology and I make it a project and
after I return and give the project.
So I do design somewhat.
But when I tell about design
with I get someone I get
people from the local, from the local
culture and bring them into the design
process to make the technology
made the solution.
And they also create the solution.
So they create the we create
the technology together.
But I think the the most
the most impactful, the most
our belief that the most
the best way to reach back
to its design by when we
don't design together what we teach
the design tools, we teach the maker
movement people, and they can produce
their own solutions.
And we believe on that.
And if you think on
this way,
together with the continued idea,
a lot of names start to come for
our mind.
So you think that we could
do a place inside of a
local area, in our case,
in our favela, in our communities
that could keep doing this project
happening, that happened in the summit
or better than that could do more
project could instigate
could could decrease
the energy to produce my project.
So all this name came to our mind.
Tax based hackerspace innovation
center, fabolous makerspace, all these.
Letters and realize that
what we need is some common
space to make, to build whatever
they want, what they want to
be right or better, what we
want to build, because today I'm part
of the same community.
I live in the same community.
So on this moment.
I need to talk about this woman,
so her name is Leah.
She's the leader of the community where
we work today, the name of the
community of hospitals and Portuguese
we can call English New Hope
Village.
It's a village of 600 people,
three thousand six hundred
families, three thousand people and
a small village.
And we started
to think about that idea.
How how can we build this place
in the favela?
Or is that a community in Sao Paulo that
could support a project that Christian
get more project?
And we realize
we need to start to talk to some favelas,
with some community members, with some
association, some leaderships.
And we met this.
And today we say that they
choose to do the project and not
we to then to do the project because we
are the same like we are on the same
the same place.
And she's a strong.
She's a strong leader in these
communities, so here you can see the
first sign is that the community already
can see the roads behind the roads.
It's all the roads and
the community like that.
And so she has
worked for the last three years, two
years. So for the last 10 years,
being either the association,
the community, and when
you start to talk to her
the first time they start to talk to her,
we start to do some questions
about, hey.
How can we work together, like
what do you like, and she start
to say, I like her handcrafts,
the community members like handcrafts,
the community members like learn by
doing.
But maybe how
what can do how how we can
keep walking or
having more ideas. And she said something
about maybe we could do
a project incubator because I talk a
little bit about what he did
just briefly.
And she said something about the
new project inside of the community,
the green house.
They want to do ecological village
inside. So we keep it talking, keep
it talking. And she came with the
Social Technology Center.
Good. So the community
already has an idea.
The organization that they want to do
something similar about
what people from outside want to do,
so it's not something that just people
from outside coming and doing inside.
So there is some synergy that
goes in the point of view that
some visions that go
to the same place.
So you find a match, right?
So there's the two sides there,
maybe has the same vision, is
a little fuzzy yet, but maybe they can
work together.
But the good thing about
is that the center and that the logo,
the center's innovation center, Vilanova
Spitzer, it's how we start
to do things, how how we can
give the first step to do
something.
And I can say that we spend
three months, four months just create
a relationship before to
do any Hands-On activities, before
build anything, before implementing
anything and
to do that.
We did emails, maybe not,
we did meetings, no,
we did conversations, not a lot.
I give lectures now.
They they don't they don't care about
lectures.
I call them. No.
One of the many good
ways.
To start work ahead, the activities of
that, what I may have had, some
of them
don't talk a lot about what
you want to do.
Don't make a lot of projects, but start
to work together.
People, when I say work is working
Hands-On activities, like do some things.
And in this case, they
have a big garden inside
where they they like
to crop the they like to
do what they got their food and
at least once a week or once the two
weeks we come, we came
to there and stayed together, then
working, working and working
and OK, I have to to do
that. They have to, to do even if you are
from outside at the same time
there is to work with your
body, with your hands, they start
to realize that, OK, this guy is doing
the same thing to me.
So he is not someone that's just coming
in to talk and talk and talk.
Maybe I want to meet him better
and we start to create a relationship.
We create a same level
of talking.
And when
you do this kind of Hanslick Penso
activity and then
we create two things that for me it's the
basic of any relationship
that's the basis of any solid
project that the relationship and the
empathy.
So at the same time that we create
relationship and they start to trust in
us and we start to be
not then and not us,
but we are together.
We also can see empathy.
We also can see better what the problems
that we can start to work before
to say anything about how we are going
to do the project.
So you guys are going to realize that
this project is very organic
and you want to be very organic,
very unique, because you to
get ownership in the community and you
that ownership inside of the village
of the people that work.
But what should be our second
step?
So, OK, now that we work together,
we create the relationship.
You create a party, we are good.
You are good. Networking side of the
community should be
more emails, meetings, conversation,
letters to do thing.
No, again, we
work as makers, we work
as designers.
So the second time hands
off of us.
So how the best
way to show what we have to show.
Is doing things so we
start to do workshops inside the
communities, how to build staff,
how to build electronics, how
to build mechanical
things, how to build ideas
where you can use both sheets, how could
build brainstormers
in order to have always
doing things for the body.
And the good thing about that.
So that's one of the pictures about we
did and the picture of the middle, OK,
we need to finalize a barbecue because
they like this kind of party and a
reliable party is always good
to keep the energy growing.
But the good thing, when you
we brought some hands
up to us.
They kind of
show tacit knowledge
when they realize that when you talk a
lot in space,
some space, maybe people
don't have it. They they
they are they are kind of shy
or they don't have the right open
to show what they can do.
But when you give a space, they work
together, they can show and maybe
sometimes they don't know.
They they show they they don't know.
They they know.
So you give
that kind of space so that
they can work and show that they know.
And the second thing is about curiosity.
Curiosity is the first step
to get engagement to gain momentum
for the Nasdaq.
So after three months and four months,
we work for that.
We get four words.
The first word is a place
to study space.
And that's a good story because
I don't know anyone will
hear the word be.
The economy,
right, we can see a lot of that,
Brazil, mainly a poor area,
and there's books about the inside of
this favela and we start
to makerspace inside of this favela in a
garage.
So every day at
10 a.m., they
leave the garage, stop outside,
parked outside and then make a stop
to happen. I'm going to show you some
video so you can see better.
And every day at five p.m.,
they will come back and
stop inside.
So we need to do some flexible
makerspace where you can park a car
and you you can you can.
And use that space.
What? That's good.
Because if you came
before, if your whole project tried to
find it, try to feel just brought inside
the community. We know that's not going
to work.
So we start to project the
work together, the space together
then. So as you guys can see,
the whole innovation center is also a
prototype.
The whole innovation center is how so
outside processes are make a move where
it's start that you build, you see what's
the next step if you have
a next well
defined next stage.
And also handcraft
community radio and Crociere.
So as the three workshop, the
kids in the workshops that we did before.
So we start to the day.
Before before this real
workshops, we started the reform in the
place where
I, as I told before, there was a garage
and in the first in
the first floor, there was
a lot of fingers inside.
After that, we reform a little bit and
reform a little bit more.
And one thing that's interesting, always
people when you talk about makerspace,
they say, OK, what what should I do
instead of what should I put inside of my
makerspace?
What the level of technology should I put
inside of my makerspace and
in my first, in my opinion,
I think that just unnecessary to
people go inside, nothing more than that,
because like the most important
thing in Nonnemaker space, the community
are building around and the community
need to have ownership beyond
that. So if you put a layer to the site,
maybe I can scare people because
they don't know how to get there, is
not there?
They are not friendly for that.
But if they ask about the machines,
they ask about the tools.
Good. So we buy after they
ask. So as I said
before, three projects
we started by. So it doesn't necessary to
open and we did, as I said, to open.
So in January.
2014,
we have just a blank
slate.
Does nothing without some basic tools
at the table,
some guy break your arm, but that's not
garbage just to say no, because we can
use that to project
some woman doing workshops in the front
that you are doing the handicraft
workshop, as they said before,
someone then already started their
community project inside.
And we start to do workshops,
a workshop about what they said before.
So we did workshops
of.
Great, so the workshops are for
websites
that where we
brought some projector's, we would call
some people inside.
That's one of the we did three
and there's one of them.
So we gave certificates.
And we did workshops of
selling bags because they
said they would like to.
To work on that and learn
these basic truths, I know that's not
high technology, but it's what they what
they are getting ownership of that.
So they are learning that that's candy
is what her first bag that she
did in her life.
And she start to come more in the
community, they think, after you
learn how to do this.
I hate to go this guy here.
And you did more workshops, we did
workshops of electronics where
we called the people around the community
and we we
taught then
welding, we taught, then we taught
them how to do turns, how
to do
lights, how to how to pull antagonizing
the mirrors, not to the tires in their
bicycles. So all that stuff.
But we realized one thing.
We just use it, we use it
just opened the workshop, the
our space in the workshop
types.
So they space the
rope every time dopy
24 hours per day.
We use it up at just the time of the
workshops and we realize to keep
it going, to
keep in happening.
We used to need to open a space
24 hours per day.
And we get we start to get
a start for that.
And this guy, his name is Tempy.
And he's a maker like
with good hands, and
because we start chopping
twenty four hours per day, new projects
start to happen.
So that's a low cost solar water heater
that we have in all our communities.
So new ideas start to come this Celsius,
not Fahrenheit.
So that's so
we can see, uh,
more products here.
Well, so the community
radio as well, as we said before,
we brought people from outside that could
figure out this community radio.
So just tell me a bit about this project
and the most favelas in Brazil.
They turned out to be bad 3G.
It's pretty bad.
So that's the one guy he knows
how to hack,
uh, Internet
connection from outside of the community.
So he put a kind of antenna
and he made a wireless connection or
close a wireless connection in his
community and in our community.
And you start to use this
to broadcast radio
through the wireless, because in Brazil,
uh, Effi, if
you want to build a radio,
you need to get a license from the
government. And that's a huge time
that expensive in that you have the
project. So if you use
the two point four degrees that the
wireless connection, we don't care
because the government is open for time.
So you start to use this wireless to the
the the the
the community radio.
And the other point, we put speakers, so
here they are testing some speakers
and broadcasts from this
computer. So projects
start to happen.
Today, and that is one of
the pride that I like to.
It's a Microland turn.
It's pretty easy
happen inside, you guys are going to
start to see the positive side.
It's pretty simple because
it's what they do is the way that they
feel, the way that we feel.
Here we go, why so
cheap?
I realize this so
it's cheap,
it's sustainable, and it's
good because every time that
happens, a project like that is
Innovation Center.
You can see the other days, everyone
using every one building
there. Is that because one
children or one dad or one
younger came into this space built and
show you have one and they start
to spread and they start to say, oh, I
want to build what I want to build what I
want to build one.
And that's good, because bringing our own
technology is bringing people for our own
place.
But we know that if in
these beginning we should do some
pretty, pretty awesome laser.
Kurt, we are not building our community
because it's too far from the reality.
So we need to step by step it slow,
take time.
But do you know that we are going you
know that we are going to the front
and keeping the process?
So also
estereo radio, they started doing side.
So they're like boxes and they put
all that stuff behind and put in the car.
I'm sorry, I put one.
So that behind
the speaker, so we put a little design
and that's Marcio, he's really
good and work, if you would, and
together painting also with electronics
and we also do.
Technology to do technology, right,
and we build light
leads to wood using
local materials, so that's
a late.
That you can.
We start using a driller.
And this says you're just
your.
And you can do anything if you would,
you would.
Let's go back.
I like that.
It's easy to build stuff, it's
easy to build the technology, build the
technology now to just stop
the.
OK, so we did all that stuff, but we
realized that how this project
started, we have a national investment
and frio idea and as I said
before, but one of the our goals
is to build a business model, not
work just as an NGO
fund raising and all that stuff, but
really have a business model around this.
And one of the things that
for us was really impactful
in the beginning of this year.
We got to be selective.
We got to to come for our
new network.
That has been amazing.
That's the way the global
get together innovation.
Yeah. So that's the picture that
we stayed like two weeks in Berlin.
Just think about an hour,
an hour go like in our evolution, how
could these
more sustainable and not just think about
from the reason, not just think about
energy and all that stuff.
And it got really good inside as we got
really good connections on that.
And today we are close to
our business
model, to our sustainability.
We are providing a
course of social innovation
in Sao Paulo to reach our high schools.
What happened? I don't know if you guys
heard about it, but Brazil is
the country for the bigger gap
between rich people and poor people
like a huge gap.
So some people live across
the street and they have a lot of money,
but they never went to
a favela, which are communities.
But some parents,
they know that it's important to know
this reality. So they want to pay for
these and more.
They want to pay for how
make my son think about design tools,
how to think about such innovation, how
to think about producing new technology,
not just for the 10 percent of the world
has happened today, but for
the other nine percent of the world.
And we start to provide this kind of
course, is in all the profit that came
for this search for the high school
can be for the innovation center to keep
the innovation center growing inside
of the community.
Our second challenge right now
after two years is the high tech part.
We got a challenge.
We got award in Brazil of
a foundation we are going to buy.
A laser cut is going to be our first
high tech, high,
high solution. We say how high product,
how device inside.
And we are really curious
how people is going to deal with this
machine because we have the ownership of
the end of this space.
We have the momentum,
we have the inspiration for them.
But we know that going to be some
challenge, how to model,
how to teach to work if the computers.
So that's one of the challenges that we
have right now.
And
that's one of the laser cut.
And our third challenge
is bigger space.
So all that stuff that I just show
it to we after, I
can I can think of the link up with our
YouTube channel
and become
a lot and our space
became its more.
So you rent space
another space in the beginning of this
year in the front of our space,
but became a small again
because we've got no tools, we needed
materials to build new things.
And after we talk
to the community about the rent this
space does the second space the community
came to us through the
DSHEA and said,
hey, you know, you guys doing a really
good things out of the community.
So take this space here that
ours and build a new space
where we don't need to pay rent
anymore. No need to rent.
And you need to give money because why
are you going to pay for renting
if you are guys doing things for us?
So they find a lens for us
and we start to do a fundraiser for this
show, invest to build the new space
that's pretty new, like happened in the
last two, three months.
And we have a design at least
have a vision doing inside
of the community if you workshops
using
it with their own ideas,
how it should be there.
How should that?
And the good thing is because
they come off the idea not to do an
innovation center, but to do a common
space.
So they how beauty is going
to be the community space and innovation
state is going to be just a part of that.
So we start to be connected
and really create
fingers inside the community, not be
something outside, even
inside, because they
really understand
how the innovation center can work.
My question for you like that,
I think is.
Imagine if you came in the beginning,
in the beginning for two years with this
project, that's not going to happen,
right, because something from outside,
something find without vision.
So every every nearest
tap is really important.
More than the result, the process
for us to build this innovation center is
more important because we are building
ownership.
We are building.
We are building knowledge.
We are showing you what we want
to do together.
And just to show that,
I have a last video.
So does this base and we start to work
about there's nothing I know
it's going to be a long
journey again, but
we are excited for that.
This is not a
good.
So we know that
just beginning. We know that they're
going to try to start another story right
now, I hope in the future
I can talk again or we
can speak and we can have
that whole building or at least a half of
billion or at least nothing but people
still working to produce their own
technology.
So I know that my final is a little
bit early, but
thanks so much for coming here.
First of all, let me thank you for this
very insightful talk over if
you have any questions, please
line up at the microphones here at the
hall signal.
Angel, do we have any questions from
Iasi?
Doesn't look like it.
No
front. Right microphone, please.
Hello. Thank you for the presentation.
I'm wondering, so all the things
you did were mainly guided and the kids
were not really playing around with
stuff, creating something completely
new by themselves or they know
they do things by themselves
so that the problem that I show it here,
they do for themselves is organically.
We are not giving some guidance.
We do guidance through the workshops.
We have something inside of the
innovation center that we call it
as workshop that happens every Saturday
where we build something that we already
know. For example, back in the beginning
that I show the workshop, for example,
chairs, which pallets,
for example, website, everything
like these are
workshops. We fill those
knowledge.
They started a new project and how
much new stuff that they built that
is really constructive for the community.
Yes.
How much in comparison to the kind of
things, uh,
if you could even like the
same that we have like workshops
happening at the same time we have these
this technology, this project they are
doing. And the good thing about that
segment of the people that built the
technology, they also become structure,
design and build these workshops.
And that's the second they're that
got a great
the front left microphone, please.
Hello, thank you very much for this
project is beautiful.
I'd like to know if you have contacts
with other spaces like the
Cairo hackerspace or
the red macomber's in
Campinas.
No, I don't know this space, but
it's good to know. Yeah, we have a good a
good connection because of the idea of
your lab. We have talked to Ben.
We feel subserve
to observe in Rio de Janeiro.
But these, as I know, low and
I would love to have these connections
because what do you want to know?
Well, to be it's kind of a gate
to getting in the community because they
really understand that the worst part is
create a relationship, is create
and articulate people inside.
And we have that.
So now we want partners that
know technology.
We can figure out all the theater
and they can work together for us.
Please, please join us at Anarchist's
related to we are going to have
a talk on the hack basis.
Great.
I can talk about thinking
more about this here.
Again, from left, please, thank
you for.
Thank you for a great talk is real nice.
I have a question which might be a little
bit off topic, but I believe that some
of us in the West have a better
idea of a favela and the people who
live there. And there are many
stereotypes and things like this.
Could you please say a few words about
how the regular everyday
lives of those people in favelas are
and what they do, what they get,
what do they get their income for from
things like this?
OK, so the most people that work in
favela, they work, they are
employees of someone or they
don't have a formal job.
So they are bricklayers,
they are violence, they
are
people. They are working house for some
people.
They don't do
have a wage for month.
They do one for you that we call because
of one job here, one job, their one job
there. So day by day is the
day that they take not turning out
to the future because we know that we
need to buy something now.
So I need this money.
I need to buy my food tomorrow.
So I need this money.
They are really far from the main
fruit from the center of the
city where they work.
And the worst thing, because these
communities where we work is the middle
is between the city of San Paolo
and Kabul.
And because the right there, between
the between, for example, this vision of
Espinosa, the main street that divides
Sao Paulo, and it's this
street so far who
we complaining about problems.
It's always a problem that because
if you go to the Sao Paulo
government, they say, oh, that's not our
problem. It's Tablo.
If you go to that's our province, Sao
Paulo, and stay like that.
And it's really it's really hard that.
So this community, it's
around two hours, two hours
and a half of the state of the city.
So they spend around five
hours per day, even six hours
when rang or had a lot of traffic
before vacations to go over to
come back from their jobs.
A lot of children around.
Yeah. So I think it was one of the
realities that we have there.
We can say you ask about
average income
between 500 to 1000.
It is that's kind of
two hundred
US dollars between two hundred
and four hundred others.
OK,
the real live microphone, please.
But it's
really a great project.
And I was really curious about what you
said about the antenna and the
radio.
So what do they actually send it?
They set up a station for
it for sending things out.
OK, let me tell you the whole story about
that. OK, so there's this guy.
His name is Marshall.
He's still five years old and
he's quiet.
He's shy, but he's pretty,
pretty good like how high tech things.
And he used to work in the northeast
of the country in a company
that provides Internet.
But the company failed
in the Northeast and happened a lot
in Brazil. People came in from the north
to the south to get a better life.
And this company that you
just forgot, all the containers, all that
stuff, all the hardware, if he and he
keep it.
So when he came to the sofa, he brought
that stuff with him and
he started to live in this favela.
He didn't have Internet anything.
And he said, hey, I know how to
steal this guy.
I know how to hack that.
So he got to, like, cut off a wood
what use as a brush to do
the rest of the container.
He got some the the harder that he has.
And he put it on his house
and he gets a sign, a radio
sign. And outside he found a
wireless connection that was open it.
And this wireless connection, he talked
to the guy because he found
a guy that was a response for that.
And the guy opened the door for him for
some month for Muff
does not allow it, but they make a deal
between that.
So he used it.
You pay, I think, around the 980
hey, ice, that's around twenty
U.S. dollars
for this guy to get his Internet
to get a connection.
That and this connection, he's open
inside of the community.
So in the beginning it was
just his family.
But after that he tried to sell that
for other community members and make
business. And that's an interesting
thing. When you work in favelas, if you
want, you are looking for innovation,
looking for two things, illegal things,
because the needs that someone is working
on that. Right.
Or we call that can be.
There's an early stage prototype
and he got this
disconnection and we thought, oh, this
guy's smart.
We have a problem of coming to radio
here, how can we use this
wireless connection to help the community
radio? Because before we've made a lot
of research about community radio and we
fought to use the wireless normal
wireless Wi-Fi to use electricity,
wireless. But electricity inside the
communities be bad because they steal,
they steal also they it
anyway. And we saw some research
about the use the wireless connection
and get a laptop computer
and use the software.
The name is Childcare's.
I don't know if you guys heard about it
so you can do a server.
So you broadcast in the wireless and
anyone can use the cell phone
to hear the community
radio. But when
you think about cell phone in the
community, even cell phone
need to be smartphones and smartphones.
People reach inside the favela.
They have a smartphone, but people, they
are middle class or poor in
the favela because it's also a gap inside
the favela. They don't have that stuff.
So to disseminate that
stuff we fought
to do using speakers that
we call hotspots.
So that's one of the prototypes that we
did where we put hotspots inside
the favela in each corner
and through our arduino has bagpipe.
You get the wireless connection
and transform in audio
and you can pass for the component
grades. But even that were not working
for the whole community because
we are just to achieve the
richer and the middle class and the poor
people that stay around the community
and serve the community and never leave
their houses before because there are
some people that they never leave their
house because someone help them and
they stay really, really far away.
They just has that
F.M.
radio really old.
So using the same
Hasbi, it was possible
to produce a f m sign.
Getting their wireless connection in
a small is more
it's more radio that's not
illegal for the government and you
can pack into the whole community.
That's one of the stories about the
radio.
OK,
the front right microphone, please.
Yes.
I'm wondering what is the ratio of kids
and then maybe talking about adults,
about the male and female ratio
as well, because I'm not sure how many
people actually have to work each day.
And so they do not have time to go to the
makerspace or after work in the community
or in the innovation center.
That's above that.
OK, the most
of women that leave this side of the
community, they are
between twenties and thirties.
OK, so something like that.
Children have a lot of younger children
because the community is a little
younger. So they the
community. But Hezbollah
was, I think three, three years ago
is not come when it's
old favela, but he of
the innovation center, the
average we have more
between 12 and 16.
Right.
And they are women.
They are men that this
is kind of the same.
But we have this kind of workshop
focus on adults.
So I think they realize it that this
from 12 to 16,
they like it to come and get
new energy and do things.
But they don't do things for longer.
They don't do things like a long
project.
The adults, it's harder
to instigate, to motivate,
but when they get motivated, they can do
it longer for their community.
Radio is one example, the Internet,
my example.
So we don't need to do the workshops
for the younger workshop, focus on the
adults because we really need to
call them.
And for the younger, it's more
organic. They just come and start to
build stuff, you know, have someone there
to teach them the tools and all that
stuff.
But what's the ratio in the numbers?
How many parents, how many adults to
actually engage in comparison to the kids
between parents and kids?
So we can say that we have a one
parent teacher around
three or four kids.
OK, something like that.
Are there any more questions?
None.
Well, thank you very much, Miguel.