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Arts collective Joern and Dirch,
better known as Jodi and also
widely known for their countless
contributions to arts and technology
holders of many awards, will be
talking to us today about understanding
the browser as a canvas of art
and Apache still functioning.
Please, please welcome them with a
big round of applause at
the lingering.
That's what, 1991?
For of
this is a nightmare for us
together with PBS from
Amsterdam.
It was like
the Oscar
was transmitted.
From the BBB's in Amsterdam
to the local television station
in Nijmegen, and then
it was layered on top of the live
camera.
In the studio is the local television,
this was 1991,
it was.
Tell network from
BFM.
No matter at Galactic
Hocutt, Sparty, D.R.C.,
the Blue Cloud.
So it was a direct result
of my meeting without
understanding anything.
Basically you see the blue
wall.
Yes, alternative
uses of technology.
And they were running a Beebs.
No, no, no shit.
They were running a business
which which
I used to make this work
and.
On top of the sound of the murder,
which is the life, the sound
Maugham's make,
that is also a phone interview.
Someone phoning in the studio
to local random numbers in
the city and asking them,
do you please turn on your local
TV where this
broadcast is running and
ask them, do you see the blue cloud?
And most of them
answered.
I saw our network attempting to contact.
So basically, this is about Jodi,
Jodi, the talk, which
is John
and Derek meeting at art
school in the Netherlands,
seeing a basement with computers,
which are meant for the design department
to use to design posters and everything
and.
Yeah, we investigated it further and
it brought us to.
A single state university,
which is more or less the capital
of Silicon Valley.
We entered the class there in 1992
and and.
We saw the beginnings of the web there,
so we switched
our attention from working on
local or
local computers, work we were doing
with CD-ROM and everything
for using the distribution medium
of the web, we the website.
And because that was it,
that's what it was all about.
For us, that is more
or less leaving the art
system aside and learning
from the local television
lesson, which
was a lesson taught by video artists
20 years before
that you could
work against television
by making alternative formats of
television and broadcasting
it on local channels,
cable,
ARD, cable TV.
So that's our work on the
on the Web by using
the website as a.
Up normal use, if you want,
or an investigation of what the medium
was, is direct
following of.
The generations before,
yeah, this was 1995, and
that was actually blinking around
here, and the thing
was that we find out that computers had
a source and in their
source, it's the ASCII scheme,
which it's
like a hydrogen
missile and.
We submitted this to Yahoo!
And they said, please learn how to
program, because
the the the result I mean,
this page is the result of a over
mistake, basic mistake of not
closing the bracket
on the pre format tag in
HTML, which is the first
uh, yeah.
The first lesson or
the basics of the basics.
Of course, we had been working
with it in a regular way, but at some
point of copying the files,
there was a mistake by not by not
copying or having
cut off the bracket by accident.
So instead of displaying this ASCII
bombe nicely
green on black as a as an
old school Laski drawing, it appeared
in this format
that way and it was filling the browser
completely.
We were surprised because
this was such a stupid basic
mistake. But at the same time it showed
a few things about the browser
that we found already interesting.
That is, that the browser is not
necessarily is not at all a fixed
window.
So it it everyone puts this browser
in at different sizes.
And because this is just
streaming into the page,
it it always
feels the browser, however,
that you make it smaller or
bigger. So, um,
and also it of course focused attention
on the making the digital material.
A Web site was
made of the HDR, Mel,
the the main
source or the main content.
The drawing was inside the code.
So both layers
were turned upside down
and for good times.
And this was made and 20
years ago.
And, uh,
when I look at it today, it
seems like it
consists of a lot of elements which
are still on the Web.
Uh, it's a work which is framed.
Uh.
There's an access file.
It's downloading something that's
not today,
so.
Then there were items in it.
Different items.
Some code.
So this was basically part of
the bigger website, Dirty Little Talk,
because at the beginning, making this
site the
net are the definition.
The term itself did not exist.
So there were a few years,
years of
of weirdness of, uh,
um, and we were exploring
what the website was.
So we the website
had a lot of navigation inside.
So you could go between different main
menus and then arrive,
for example, in these good times.
But yeah, there was also warm
food and and,
um, therms you had to accept
before you could enter sites.
Yeah, since since Goodtimes was
like a Hawks virus,
we decided to have
some terminal
soundscapes running.
And at the time, I mean,
there was this hacker, Mitnik,
and he was caught and they
put these files online.
So.
So I don't know the to material.
Oh, yeah, and the
more war images.
Yeah, we purposely,
of course, left these images broken
because then something
which, beside the elasticity,
different sizes of the browser, what
interested us was also the elasticity
of the images themselves.
There is no reason at all for an image to
be displayed at its normal
size. You can just
change the
the, uh, the width and the hate
to any format or just
fill in a wrong name and then or
the wrong format and then it will show up
broken. So.
We were having fun
with things
being broken at that.
Part of the of the site,
something which we continue in order
works that
Britney Valkyr will turn them and
send in seven children.
It depends what
John will show.
What I will say.
Oh, yeah, this is based on
on on a website which which
we made, which had automatic downloads
in it, so you couldn't really
I mean, it was software that
automatically was downloaded and was
placed on your desktop.
Well, after a while,
if you would click that
some of these items
to skip it would start
scrolling up and down and
taking over your desktop.
So it was behaving really
like like
a virus should behave in
a very visual way.
It was relatively hard to
just shut down. So there are stories
of people who brought their computer
through the service with
this website
running.
So that was always this
was a dirty trick, it brought
us also into problems with a
service provider because he
basically needed to move
where post because he
sent an email
that we had agreed that
nothing unusual would happen,
as anyone would agree, when you sign
a contract with a with a Web
host.
So that was then
the message. And we
made it into a bulletin board,
a guest book where people reacted
to. So there were a lot of people
from and in contrast,
some were really saying, yeah, this is
so ridiculously annoying
that that these people should
be punished and at least be removed
from this Web post.
And then there were others which were
saying, no, but this is art.
Um.
I think by that time, Nettelhorst
existed, so we could say that it was art.
Thank you, Alex.
Thank you, Bunting.
Thank you. Chelsea.
Then a few years later,
I mean, we did the Ã‰poque
tumbling action on YouTube, which
was like poking the camera
through on YouTube
and uploading it directly,
and we were performing it in in
public with groups of people.
So we were randomly without checking
what or why putting these
like
two, three second videos as comments
all over YouTube.
And at the end, we recollected
we collected them to make like
a long movie of this bodily
mass of thumbs.
And yeah, you can see randomly
where they are connected, where they
are
made, where they are.
A comment on. But that's totally random.
I don't know if it qualifies as porn on
YouTube, but,
um,
it's that that whole movie
is almost one
hour. I think.
That's more for the experimental cinema
department, but
yeah, something
which is also really interesting for us,
I mean, the history of experimental film.
It's full of annoying things
like a widescreen forever,
which is the version we made of Graycar.
I have to say all all it all you
do. I mean, it's always you know,
it's always comes from somewhere.
And then for
film, like it is a film
like a negative with or
without anything is a version we made
with Greg. We have a white graphic, which
is a level of Crake, which
is totally white.
And if you think there is nothing
happening there, but it's actually the
first level of Crake
and it's bright.
White monsters
also render bright white
and then the blood
goes away.
So you have everything
in front of you, but it's
it's bright white remnants,
but with some habits.
And there were a lot of great
players at the time who could just play
the different levels because the sounds
and the monsters were always coming
more or less from the same same
corners so they could get quite far
in the game by blind.
Oh, no.
Just at the.
Whenever the wrong browser turn,
we come from it.
Well, we started with it with nets
and nets art
at a time when there were only four
possible domain extensions.
The dot com net,
that was it. Of course there was the
middle, but that was not for the general
public.
So at the moment, that changed
like that. The geo, the geography
of life was entering
the web. That was kind of
a shock or disappointment
to us so that the national
geography was entering cyberspace.
That would mean that it would be
regulated and could be regulated
maybe on the national level.
So we
decided to make browsers,
which we called wrong browsers.
And this is one running.
I mean, you should.
Yeah.
Wrong browsers for
well, ideally, we wanted to make
one for every
domain extension.
So this is wrong. Browser dot org.
We made a dot com browser,
we made dot Japan, we made a dot
and now we made a dot
Brazil.
We made a set of eight, nine
browsers with
the conceptual intention
to to make one for every every
domain extension.
And this one goes to the states.
Uh,
it's automatic.
So it's because also the net
was filling up with addresses that
the the, um,
that it's a random four five
letter combination dot org
told us that.
Yeah.
Well, three letters then
journo's because she made it
and I'm just
talking about it basically.
And um.
Yeah, that's something.
I also really want to say
that during the years the
coding of all these different projects,
um, well
you know, it's not a moment yet,
maybe because you haven't seen the
app, but the program
is done by Joan because Joan is
a, I don't know, coder girl.
I think I really don't know
basically anything
that's that's that's true.
And yeah,
sometimes we we we asked for
help and, uh, well,
at the end it was still
a lot of Joan's work.
This is North Korea, the North Korea
browser.
Uh, OK, ten minutes.
We're going serious business now.
What does that mean?
Okay.
That that that
yeah.
We actually created
a show where C.C.C.
was end and that was
called Web Crash.
That was in 2008.
Uh, actually, you
only needed a banner.
And.
They made a little walk in town.
And this is your banner?
Well,
it's know it was the idea of how to
organize an exhibition,
so and we thought it would be of no use
to display computers and
that you would only display the URLs,
of course, but then you have to somehow
do something more than a flat
tax. So we kept more or less the
design of the original
sites and decided to do a demonstration
or a walk in two years ago.
We did the same actually in
China.
We got some banners
like, yeah, since we
in Germany.
We made them motivational banners
and.
We still don't know if they agree
because we put them like kind of
official
on places
like.
Yes, that
lady talking to me for 30
minutes.
Well, this is one of the
of these minimal
approaches to two to.
I guess it sums up the life of another
artist somehow.
That little talk, yeah,
long dogmatism, we don't talk, always
texted it
about, texted it, you have to put
it a bit louder.
I can't do it
for you.
Chinese this
disk utility
finder.
Forge book.
Grab screen.
Selection time
to screen
import image
mail, and
it may sound like a computer voice, but
speed it isn't.
It is the sound I texted
you. Can you can I offer
these services to talk,
to get it to make a text for
your answering machine?
So we gave him the whole text
command, a menu of
text edited by.
Yeah, and we asked him
to put as much emotion in it
as he was doing.
Yeah,
yeah, this is actually
like yeah,
it comes from the strong browser
actually the domain name
backcountry were made and now
we can have, uh,
international characters.
So the work is international domain
names.
And we registered some
one little letter characters
to make websites
of.
And there's almost nothing, but
it's it's
a letter.
It's actually and
it's where the title of this presentation
of the word comes from Apache's
functioning normally that we were.
And we found out that the
the
the languages
we choose letter from were
mostly like old Chinese
or Inuit.
Uh.
And the abeche, it's
the.
So, yeah, actually, they're somehow,
um, yeah, serious
intention somewhere that is that,
you know, beginning with with e-mail
and the World Wide Web and the way
the World Wide Web is going and being
kind of, let's say,
neglected in
response to in relation to social
media and so on.
We found we thought, yeah, we hadn't
done enough to show
what was behind, you know, what
what was the server?
What was the the
the server, the what the the way that
works.
And we
that we tried to make that as
the subject of a series
of works which we are still
busy with.
Uh, yeah.
Trying to, you know,
well start
to attract attention to the to
the back side, like go to the server.
Oh
yeah.
I've, I found out that if
you put in the server
and it happens, we have in the past
server.
So that's why we the
yeah. Probably everything we make is
like functioning
normally, but these are
just all empty files,
only the extension is changed.
So
these are things where I have to
disconnect from Joan, because it's
like what
this is XHTML you have to look
at?
Well, I'm sure there's someone here who
understands what is going on.
This is empty.
MP three.
OK, now we gets a movie.
Um, Fiji, like,
yeah,
it's a vector file,
uh, text,
you know, hell of a snail
and the
lamb.
And the
OK.
What are you
saying I am.
Yeah.
Hi.
Hello.
What is it?
Yeah, there is a stalker, basically,
I can imagine you didn't notice, but.
OK.
OK, we want to show the app just
to close down, because we made this up,
a moving performance up,
you know, uh,
just for people to act.
So there are instructions like 10,
12 instructions you need to follow.
And this is a group of
people doing that,
basically.
Put up the sound a bit louder also
because we're going to stop here, I
think.
So that's been to come here
in the front is the first one
basically finishing and.
That's the instruction video.
Ten times. Blow into the
micro and.
My campaign needs to reach a certain
level, so if you don't reach that
level, you can go on to the next
exercise.
I run up
to the local.
ABC fact and the
person in the middle found out that you
can cheat because the instructions
says that you have to turn around 10
times. So she found out that the
sensate.
So, yeah, we're going to stop here
because time's up and
we thank you for the impressive talk.
Yeah, yeah.