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Free public Wi-Fi available
in every city and village all across
Europe, provided for and managed
by the government.
Sounds great, doesn't it?
Well, I think Austin has
had a different experience.
And today Greg is going to share
some of the problems they found and
what we can do about it.
Let's give him a warm welcome.
Well, hello, everybody.
Hello, well, people, hello, random
strangers from the Congress, hello,
people on the internet.
Within the next 40 minutes or
so, I'm going to present you
some stuff about Wi-Fi for you,
which is a really honorable goal
to achieve, why it's broken
by technical specifications and why
this introduction is no longer friendly
compared to what we thought about
it in May.
So to come to the overview of the talk
I've heard is going to present the idea
behind Wi-Fi for you.
The plan that the European Commission had
was implementing Wi-Fi for you.
Why it actually matters.
13 ways all this went wrong.
What has been done?
What can be done
and the sources?
I have to back up my claims.
Spoiler alert there's a joke with the
sources.
OK, so what's the idea?
Europe or the European Union
is one of the biggest political behemoths
we have in the world, and they're
doing long term strategies.
The Europe 2020 strategy is what Europe
aims to achieve by 2020.
From the viewpoint of 2010,
they want to bring employment to a level
of 75 percent of the people aged
20 to 64.
They want to reach a research
and development goal that is three
percent of euros GDP
that is supposed to be invested in R&D.
They want a climate and
energy change, which greenhouse
gas emissions cut to 20 percent
lower than 1990.
20 percent of their energy is supposed to
come from renewables and 20 percent
decrease in energy efficiency.
And they want to get the rates of early
school leavers below 10 percent
and at least 30 percent of the people
between 30 and 35 for,
I suppose, to have completed higher
education.
Now this is pretty boring, and you
probably wonder yourselves why the focus
is boring, as was the US strategy.
Well, poverty and
social exclusion also plays a role,
and at least 20 million fewer people
are supposed to be in or at risk of
poverty and social exclusion.
And since we're living in the year
2018,
the solution to all those problems is
at least partially supposed to be
digital.
The idea is to introduce something like a
digital single market
by
phone for a use part of this program.
The Digital Single Market
is
basically trying to implement the four
freedoms that we know from the single
market of the European Union,
the free exchange of goods of capital,
of services and of labor,
and the digital way.
So far, the digital market is a strategy
program that is running from 2015 to
2020.
It has 14 legislative proposals which
have heavily impacted our everyday lives.
In May 2016, everything went
off to a good start and blocking has been
disabled. Most of you might be enjoying
that.
In 2016, ideas has been
introduced, which is basically a standard
for secure protocols between the European
Union member states.
And I'm not sure if you're into
it security. But if you are, I'm told the
people like it.
Something that most of us make right is
that the European Union has abolished
roaming charges by 2017
in March 2018 by far.
You were supposed to follow as a program
which is supposed to provide
Wi-Fi for you, then the networks will be
free of charge, free of advertising and
free of personal data use.
That was amazing.
Yeah. And then somehow somewhere
something went terribly wrong.
Before that, the last victory, we got the
GDPR, which some might find
annoying, but it is basically
standardizing the use of personal
data in the digital market space of the
European Union.
And yeah,
then started September and the Copyright
Directive came.
Some people might have heard the names
linked tax and censorship machines.
If you want more information about that,
you could contact the office of your
reader, the only member
of the European Parliament on a Pirate
Party take up.
And I'm not sure if you noticed early
this December we got
the Evidence Proclamation.
The evidence proclamation
is the new set of rules that
is going to allow
law enforcement across borders in
the digital realm.
What could go
wrong?
So how did this start?
This program was announced by Jean-Claude
Juncker, the president of the European
Commission, and he basically claimed that
everyone benefiting from connectivity
means that it should not matter where you
live or how much you earn.
So we propose today to equip every
European village and every city with
free wireless internet access
around the main centers of public life by
2020.
That sounds amazing.
People like I love the idea.
There was even some icing on the cake.
If I felt free, you found it.
Networks will be free of charge, free of
advertising and free of personal data
use.
At this point, some people actually
discussed to ask the guy to become
honorary member of the defunct movement
just because we liked it so much
and because, well, we're a little digital
hippies.
Money is far and few between.
This guy has other means.
He decided that he wanted to implement
this as a European Union wide standard.
Well, how does the European Union do
that?
They can either use a carrot
or a stick.
Since not all people are rabbits and
sticks are kind of forbidden
and the European Union, you don't pay
people to do things
they usually use the next best thing,
which is money.
Well, how
how can we use the money to do that?
You decide that you want to spend €100
million on it because the European Union
and you have a ton of money.
You decide that you want to have
8000 municipalities that are supposed
to install before for you, and you
decide that you're going to give every
municipality that is going to do
verify for you will earn fifteen thousand
euros.
You decide that you will spend
this money and five
calls
and you will start the first call them
May 2018.
This is not intended to finance the
entire installation
and the extra money for keeping.
It's just extra money for keeping the
video for you.
Standard
Life where
you'll find it. That works.
Actually, it will be free of charge, free
of advertising and free of personal data
usage. Somehow, you might want to
compensate the poor towns and cities for
the monetary losses there suffering.
Well, and if you look at
the legislation that was given
out and they also identified
something that was at least
two people in the fashion community, a
huge surprise and made them very happy.
They identified security and data
protection risks and
within the legal wording, it said
that the scheme will ensure full
protection of personal data and
sufficient level of identification to
ensure user friendliness
of the connection at the access point
level.
I'm not sure how many of you are familiar
with it security of mobile devices,
but reading that
made us very happy
because it meant that they had understood
the problem that we are not able to
address. And I forget, which means
that the network has to authenticate
itself to the user.
So we thought, yes, network
authentication,
because one or two
of you might remember Black Hat
conferences, other things were,
for example, I assume I catchers
have been installed by Firebase.
Someone set up a honeypot and got
all your personal information from
your
from your pin. That's not the best thing
you want to happen.
So we were very positive.
We thought that this really mattered
because you were standards have normative
effects, as you could see by
the other programs.
Today we pay with euros,
the
GDP respawn data protection laws in
China, Brazil and California.
Actually, the Deutsche Telekom is using
EU regulation to fight
the so-called forgotten spy, something we
have learned to love and hate in Germany.
And this is just the beginning of the
video for your project, because when the
project runs successfully, the European
Union usually keeps running it in a
hundred twenty million euro.
Ah, not that much by European Union
standards.
Yeah.
And now we come to a certain ways where
it went wrong.
Security and data protection risk,
they had that in there.
Everybody was happy.
They put out a press release that said
that everything is going to be fine.
And then they announced that they're
going to have the first call on the 15th
of May.
They're going to hand out 10000 vouchers.
They're going to spend roughly 50 million
euros. That's not too much
money for the European.
Union, that's basically a
prototype thing for running the program,
you
know, and then things went haywire
on the 25th of April 2018.
The technical specs that were supposed
to be installed were
given out for the first time
within those technical specs.
Partially, it was
mentioned that from
2019 onwards, there's supposed
to be a common authentication platform
for every
Wi-Fi free you hotspot.
I'm not entirely sure who will use
creeped out yet, but
let's start why and where this is a
really bad idea.
First of all, there's this GDPR thing.
It says that we're not allowed to gather
data that we don't need.
There's no need for any kind of
identification to use a simple wireless
access iPhone because proving this on
a daily basis.
And if you want to come
around with there's ID
needed for e-government services, you can
do that as you do with every Vipshop
you authenticate yourself.
If you want to do something otherwise,
there's no need to.
Fiscal responsibility is also a question.
Even if you're the European Union
running a centralized ID server
for a population of 450 million euro,
people in inner cities
is going to burn your radio
service to the ground.
With my from Afghan environmental and who
have been articulating this critique
of the program, we have up to 9000
or 15000 daily users
and we are far and few between with our
hotspots
setting up that kind of infrastructure is
going to cost a ton of money.
You could even ask if those are some kind
of hidden subsidies to larger firms
within the European Union
due to the fact that there are only a few
companies which can actually handle those
massive server loads,
especially since there are designated
national identification services.
The next thing that basically jumps in
your face
is
what you would usually call a matter of
national security or union
security central.
You're talking about the entire European
Union.
I'm not entirely sure how comfortable you
feel about the fact that this would imply
that there's somewhere a data trove
sitting around for someone to break it
open and basically get
the movement data of every European Union
citizen.
Of the nation he just cracked.
That's just spooky.
And those are not the bad parts.
They're still coming. It's getting
better.
Oh, I'm
from an I.T. perspective, you have a
single point of failure.
I'm not entirely sure why you would want
to do that to yourself.
But people also like
to shoot themselves in the knee.
So those are five of the 13 promos waste.
This went wrong
in the 13th of April 2018.
The technical specifications part two are
released, and they are mention of the
implementation of a captive portal.
Captive portals are things that we all
have come across to love and
hate about wireless access.
And those
inhibit innovation because all kinds
of IoT devices are basically blocked by
captive portals.
And if you want a general
to lead Europe in the 21st century
and we build up a digital infrastructure
that's blocking IoT devices,
that
might not be the way to go.
Also, there's the question of digital
inclusion.
I'm not sure if you ever try to use a
captive portal when you're broke one of
your hands or you
had the pleasure of assisting one of your
grandparents working through
a captive portal where you don't know
where you have to click and you have to
make things bigger to actually hit the
button.
It's not really what we would call
accessibility.
I would like to remember you to the last
point where it came to the fact that the
Europe 2020 agenda actually aims
for social inclusion and not social
exclusion.
Yeah. And also you kick a ton of
legacy devices.
I'm probably sure this is not a problem
among the chaos people here,
but
quite a few people have more than five
year old smartphones who still can handle
captive portals,
and there is an intense security problem.
Anyone ever heard of the NSAC?
Please show your hand.
Yeah, that doesn't really
work well with captive portals.
So those are eight ways the thing
went wrong.
What's next?
The innovation inhibition of IoT devices
is not going to be fixed by VPA three,
because most IoT devices are not
going to have the processing power
to generate the random numbers that you
actually need to lock
in with WPA3.
So this is something that might
otherwise come up in the Q&A.
Yeah.
And then they talk about an
embedded snippet for a European
Commission for monitoring actual
functioning of the Wi-Fi for you network.
This means that with your mobile device,
you have to actually allow the access
point to run a little bit of JavaScript
that actually allows him to monitor your
usage.
How could that go wrong?
Well, it's basically a potential backdoor
into the access points which are standing
around, and that allows to gather
the user data.
Java is known for having security issues.
And since you
don't really have physical control of
wireless access points, which you set
up with in the public domain,
implementing a software that is
vulnerable
by
design is opening up
the access points to all kinds of
attacks.
So those are nine ways this goes sideways
for more to come.
And the next thing
is kind of fun. Perhaps
that makes complete sense to actually
label
the
SSD v5 for you.
No one would disagree with that, but
without any form of identification and
was planned Java setup
you
would basically democratize had him
because setting up a honeypot
together, metadata of users just walking
by and saying, Oh, that's a buffer for us
inside, and there's no authentication.
So I just going to use it and I'm not
going to even notice if
I'm fooled as
well. It's just too easy.
Well, those are 10
times more to come,
and
the week before the first call should
have gone live.
They also added the specification
that
the setup access points had to comply
with Hotspot 2.0.
This is a proprietary standard,
and it's not really fun because first
of all, Hotspot 2.0 actually
allows you to access Yosemite,
and I really don't see any reason why a
wireless hotspot driven in a public
space should know.
I assume I be.
I'm not entirely sure about you,
but there's no reason for that.
OK, Hotspot 2.0 actually helps
you to get around captive portals and
makes us more comfortable to use a
wireless if you
have a captive portal in the first place.
You don't need that.
If you've got the captive portal, you can
up the Hotpoint Hotspot 2.0 and
its auto connect at your home.
Can auto connect without anything like
that?
Yeah, and there is again, the hidden
subsidies stuff.
This is a bit more subtle and it's a more
complicated point.
I'll try to bring it home gently.
Hotspot 2.0 allows for so-called
connection roaming, which
basically means that you
can steer traffic between the connection
connection types off your mobile device,
between the wireless channel and the
mobile channel, and the Bluetooth on the
NFC and the LTE and the G5
and all those.
Well, I I
would
dare to make a conjecture.
Because Hotspot 2.0 is proprietary,
we don't really know how this is going to
be handled on our a device
or mobile traffic, is
it more expensive
than wireless traffic?
So if you actually
buy your cell phone from your mobile
provider and
you don't actually hack your cell phone
yourself and set up a OS on it, like
most of you might do, Hotspot
2.0 could actually use to pass
traffic from the mobile data streams
to wireless data streams.
So a wireless
network in that way might be seen as
subsidized to mobile providers,
especially in inner cities
were
generating good mobile coverage.
This is really, really inexpensive,
and it's a really competitive market
and I think easier to have the big mobile
companies by just setting up a wireless
network that basically takes
out a bit of the heat,
if you like that.
So, yeah, you basically would start to
subsidize mobile service providers.
What's next?
There's inclusion problem.
Hey, another one
Hotspot 2.0 allows to circumvent
the captive portal. As mentioned earlier
and
start a state of the art smartphones
actually are compatible to Hotspot 2.0.
So what you basically get is that poor
people get captive portals on their
legacy devices and
rich people.
Well, they got auto connectivity for you
without even noticing it.
I'm not entirely sure which one you
prefer, but both
aren't that nice.
So we have to deepen our compliance
problems. We have fiscal responsibility,
knee problems, we have heavy substations,
we
have national security issues, we
have inhibition of innovation,
we have inclusion problems and
we have three kinds of I.T.
security problems.
That is, 12 ones
that went wrong.
Well, number 13 is going to be
a killer, but it's going to take us a
moment to get there.
What happened next?
On the 15th of May 2018,
the first call went life,
and
the people in charge
obviously showed the technical
skills the home page broke
down.
There were too many municipalities trying
to apply for those wonderful vouchers.
Sweet, sweet European Union money
now in
the 14th of June, there came
out in a press release that
the call has been canceled.
Also, we have been in touch with the
people and they decided
that they are going to hold an open
market consultation until the 5th
of October,
six days after the open market
consultation, where basically European
Union asks the market what are applicable
solutions.
They decided that they're going to stick
with the original idea.
And they announced a second call for the
seven to nine, 12 November
where they handed out 2800
vouchers because they had to
keep up spending with the money because
it's not too much time until 2020,
and
they basically started
to spend 42 million
of taxpayers money with
those wonderful technological
specifications attached
on the 7th of December.
The winners of the call are announced.
Mm hmm.
Um, I call those
guys winners because
on the 7th of December, something else
also happened.
As far as I know, there's going to be a
talk on this Congress or I
hope at least a discussion about
the regulation on cross-border access
to evidence
was agreed upon by the Council of the
European Union.
This is where it gets really,
really funny.
Number 13 is going to be a lucky number
if you please bear with me for a minute.
And we go to Civic's one on one.
The bedrock of our societies is a
separation of powers unto
the executive, the legislative and the
judicial branch.
Those together from the state.
And then there's those funny people who
actually form the economy.
Usually some kind of company actually has
user data so far in Germany
and most other European states.
If you want to access personal data, if a
citizen is, the executive
branch has to ask you to show brand
if they would please see why it's
necessary to invite the privacy of that
citizen.
If the judicial branch then agrees to
actually tell the company that they have
to hand over the information
and then the information is handed to the
executive branch, that kind
of makes sense.
It's not happy, but
it's nice that it's this way.
Also in Germany, we have strong laws
governing what you can actually not get
from other people, for example, by German
law. The Alexa recording
from your living room where
you plot the murder of your aunt with
your spouse is inadmissible in court.
Well, number
13 is a bit more fun.
It's trying to solve the issue that
you have if you have an
executive branch and state aid
that once information from a company
instead of be sincere
and not in the same state
and would be hard to agree on the
judicial branch that would be in charge.
Staff to be implemented, all this would
be very hard.
So what happens now is according
to evidence
that the executive branch is
basically calling the company that has
the data they want to have.
Not bad so far.
And then,
given the current state of affairs,
the company has to answer to the
executive branch directly
within six hours.
Just to get this together.
The European Union is rolling out a
verify program for public spaces,
which is aimed at small and medium
enterprises to apply
to generate Wi-Fi coverage
in the public domain.
For every citizen walking around,
it's set up in the way that we wouldn't
even realize or recognize when
we connect to the infrastructure
seamlessly.
And now
some police department somewhere in
Europe is able
to track US citizens due to the
centralized identification
infrastructure, which basically
you tell them if their citizens are
abroad and can then
call the local by phone for
your wife and for your provider
and ask them for
the movement of a citizen,
they are trekking abroad.
I'm not entirely sure,
but
it's either time to refresh the memories
of the European Commission about what the
DDR is about,
or remember that the first Congress was
in 1984.
At least we felt like
that.
Yeah.
So this is what happened so far in the
public domain, and everything of this is
satisfied.
How does it happen that the little
man is standing in front of you
and
proclaims to be someone who knows about
all that from having
been involved in the topic since 2017?
Actually, by far for you is what cracked
me into.
Because I read about the program in
summer of 2017, and I was looking
for people who might know if this is a
good idea
in November 2017.
You wrote the first email to the European
Commission telling them that
the then
used idea of ediyorum for everybody
also using a centralized authentication
infrastructure is not a good idea.
We changed some emails, exchanged some
phone calls, and they told us that they
were very happy about our input and they
would come back to us.
We were happy about things like, Wow,
this is this is perfect.
We just call them and tell them, Hey,
this is a bad idea. They're like, Oh,
thanks for the Apple, we're going to call
you back.
Well, they did
early April 2018, so
about six weeks before the call went
online and they gave us
technical specifications, whether they
had under consideration.
I remember that three of us, I think
my is here over there,
and Yannick worked through the night to
dig through those 20 pages of technical
specifications that they were considering
and came up with something like
an opinion, which basically
was Please don't do that.
This led to a wonderful text,
which is in German code.
But he also picked Miseducated one for
iPhone, which can be found on the home
page of iPhone gone.
They still went ahead and started
publishing
the
technical specifications mentioned
earlier.
We then started to contact
the members of the European Parliament
that are basically responsible
for Artem
and Yulia, either because while
she is responsible for the internet
right,
those actually decided to write to the
European Commission and told them to
please listen to what we saying
and.
After the first call had been gone bust,
there was a visit to Brussels
that was actually facilitated by the
Office of the Reader, where we talked to
the head of the unit, and he asked
us to summarize all the problems we
saw and we did.
We felt very happy because we think that
for a moment thought naivete
naive as we were,
that we triggered the open market
consultation.
We even participated in the open market
consultation and submitted material and
input, and we sat to
a three hour telephone conference in the
middle of the day.
Well, all this didn't work.
As you might remember.
So what do you do if you're a little
helpless person?
You take to Twitter,
for example, Jimmy Schulz, which
is the head of the Commission for
the Digital Agenda of the Bundestag, was
tweeting about Wayfair for you and the
fact that he was and thrilled about
the program taking off.
And we just mentioned that there might be
tiny problems with the infrastructure
we might have used for clarifying
language.
He actually jumped on it
and said that he is going to ask around
about it.
He started to so-called skeptics and
Fargo, which was some kind of form of
parliamentary inquiry to the community,
and asked them what they thought about
the video for your program, but wanted
to get him happily answered.
Well, the European Union usually knows
their shit.
Yeah, or they don't.
Also, Akeredolu's Hyde Park,
which perhaps is around or at least
visible at the Congress on Twitter,
opened up to say that there is a meeting
of the commission
and the digital agenda.
And if any of us had any questions to
ask, we should tell her.
So we did.
And she also asked
the committee of the Digital Agenda,
which is quite funny because
the GDPR officer of Germany
was sitting in front of this committee.
They had the question from.
They had had the question from Tammy
Schwartz beforehand about why far for you
and I still didn't know anything about
the program and they will get back to
her.
Well, we haven't heard back
yet, but that's just two
weeks ago and there was Christmas.
But what also happened and that
is basically the finalization of one and
a half years of work.
On the 14th of December, Jimmy
Schultz decided to write
an open letter to unable to tell you
who is the European data protection
officer,
and it's an open letter, so it's going to
be fun to see what comes from that.
At this point, I think it's fair to
mention that I'm not a member of any
political party in Germany, but I'm
just happy if politicians actually answer
if you write them angry emails.
Um yeah.
Now the big question is what can be done?
This is what has been done.
You could write your member of the
European Parliament and sort of 37.
You can actually check
out
who is the European Parliament member who
is responsible for you.
This also goes to the people from the
internet.
Just check out
and write them and ask them questions
about why fight for you?
All the sources are in the background of
this presentation, and it will be loaded
up afterwards.
You could take out of your town is a
winner,
and if it is,
you might actually out yourself to your
local politicians that you're a person
who's capable of entertaining
the technical difficulties
and
tell them that they're about to
force a 1984
esque observation infrastructure down
their citizens throats.
They might actually be very happy because
I'm quite sure that most small towns
and cities cannot afford I.T.
specialists to check
for PR compliance of a European
Union program. They usually would just
assume it's going to work out well.
You could write to the European
Commission. They actually have a website
where you can put in feedback to the
program, so please look at the
technical specifications, take out all
the other standards.
See if you actually know a that can
host five 50 clients and only
has to buy to my mom
and
write them their opinion.
Every letter makes them more happy.
I guarantee you that.
As a European Union,
I'm not sure if anyone here knows
organisms, but there
is something like fighting not just on
the European Union level where you
basically can ask the European Union
if they would please be so kind to
evaluate on their thinking,
since those are official inquiries
which those people have to answer.
You are limited in the amount of
questions which you supposed to submit as
a regular citizen.
I'm I'm out of questions,
so if any of you could take over, I'd be
glad
I'm
one could consider formulating a
petition.
If anyone has free time and likes to read
petitions within the next few days,
we could do that.
Or you could join the discussion how
to actually build a desirable
infrastructure and be constructive in the
discussion and make a proposal
to the European Commission.
What the technical specifications of life
have for you could actually look like
tomorrow. And the Open Infrastructure
Orbit and Hall two.
There is a workshop about life
for you and how to fix it.
I'd be happy to see you join them
either when you're here or if in the
internet, just drop me an email or tweet.
And
I think now it's time for questions.
So for questions, we have two
microphones, there's a microphone over
there and there is a microphone over
there and there's a microphone connected
to the internet.
Way back there.
So I don't see
your signal angel.
And that means no questions on the
internet. I have an empty microphone over
there and an empty microphone over there.
So while you are formulating your
questions, Greg, I
have a question for you. Sure.
You mentioned that tomorrow there's the
session about coming up with what the
optimal solution looks like.
Do you already have an idea?
Ways that it could be improved?
I would very much like to
see the network authenticate itself
to the user and following a decentralized
power to the user standard.
And I would be very happy if there
wouldn't be a single point of failure
that is implemented within our ID server.
If you ever hear about any kind of major
city where there's no mobile connection
at the moment, that's usually a radio
server that just died.
Those would be my my two first hopes.
And also just don't take personal data
if you don't need it.
I really like the DPR.
All right. It seems that we have someone
standing at this microphone over here,
so please loudly and close to
the microphone.
Thank you very much for the presentation.
Tomorrow, we're going to look at how to
fix the mess that's been created.
How do we avoid a similar
similar mess in the future?
How do we get more tech knowledge
into the EU institutions?
So how do we fix this in advance?
I guess be
less naive.
My mistake was that I wrote emails
to those people and they answered nicely,
and usually if I write email to people
and they answer me nicely,
I expect them that we have an
understanding and if something takes
longer, they're just to stress or
something.
I think you shouldn't fear to just
escalate. The situation of stuff is not
going your way.
Just contact the head of unit if someone
is not answering to you
and something I shied away from
a lot because I'm used to
work with people and trusting
relationships. It's not using the press
so far.
I think that might have helped a bit more
if, especially after
the first call, we would have made the
effort to sit down
and basically write a big blog
post and publicize it over our channels.
But we were still hoping for constructive
dialog, and I think that
those the people on the other side are
pros,
and
perhaps you should use some more elbows.
Yeah, that's basically
all right.
We have a question from the other
microphone in this direction.
I just wanted to say thanks for notifying
the office of Jimmy Schultz.
I'm I work there and
we
would love to continue the
cooperation and continue
the work on a better wife for you
director there.
Well, I'm sorry, we didn't know you.
Thank you.
We have a question now from the other
microphone.
OK, hello.
Is it ever more on
the password Passport 2.0?
Is it a same as Epsom protocol?
I didn't understand that.
Would you speak into the microphone?
Get real close?
OK, so can you elaborate
more on the passport to royal protocol?
Is it same as ABC?
Can you elaborate more on the
on the Passport 2.0 or
the Hotspot 2.0?
Yes, this
I would love to.
I think Daniel is somewhere around here
who gave a talk with me on the wireless
community weekend about this issue.
The point is that I don't have much
information because it's a proprietary
standard.
We have a
talk
from the wireless community weekend
in May where we looked at the
Hotspot 2.0 standard and
checked some technical specifications we
you would had to have from an open
source
handling of it.
But
the basic idea of Hotspot 2.0
is
to
to get your mobile device
more usable.
It's supposed to
get
rid of the harassment of captive portals.
If you're actually authenticated, it's
supposed to enable connection roaming.
It's basically what
you would call intelligent
interaction between your mobile device
and an access point.
And it's the first standard that
Assad has.
As far as I understood it, the one of the
first standards that is seeing
your mobile device as a multichannel
object, whilst all the other
eye Tripoli standards usually are either
5G
or Y or villain or other
mobile or LTE standards.
This is the first standard that tries to
connect the different ways of
communicating with the outside world.
That's basically all I can tell you.
OK, thank you.
Sorry.
From this microphone over here, I
fully understand it's a little bit
closer, please. I fully understand it's a
bit like David fighting Goliath.
Can you give us some background
on the other purchasing part
participating parties in the consultation
work?
So who who was the
the whole spectrum, the whole gamut of
participants in that game?
I was about to come to that.
I just kind of jump ahead now.
So basically, I'm
one of the few extroverts within the
movement. So I won the gig of sending
him the people who were
driving. This is Typekit McFarland,
which is Germany's biggest five
home community. They're right.
About 4500 access points have
15000 similar users and are
pretty big in what they're doing.
Fuzzy leapfrog actually help with the
presentation and getting it
understandable.
The city of Akron is so nice to actually
finance high from Aachen and thus
allows us to do all this useless
political work because we don't have to
run after funding.
There is Yannick, who is also
a Libyan maintainer of Typekit, often who
helped to basically dissect
any kind of captive portals.
Matter who.
Seems to still be sitting over there
helped a lot with tearing apart
all the wireless standards and the
connection standards, Daniel,
which I don't see at the moment.
He is probably over at
the open infrastructure orbit.
Got a lot of input into Hotspot
2.0.
Andrea, still far from smartphone flying
on Daniel is from
the
list from the leader development team
and we are still far from far from being
on. Had some insights into
the mobile world
and
a language from far flung
voice coaching, I think had some
input regarding some IP security issues.
So it has been a broad and long
discussion that has now amounted
to whether
helpful in answering your question or
quick.
All right, we have a question from the
microphone to my right.
If I do one to bring Wi-Fi to
my local community, would you say I
need to stop using
Wiper for a, you know, or say, any path
to
some useful form
of that program?
One thing to finish answering your
question? Also, Monique of
iPhone app needs to be mentioned because
she is the one who forced me to be here.
So if I want to bring Wi-Fi to my local
networks, yeah, I work within the
framework of Wi-Fi for you or is there
something else I should do?
I would recommend to use something
else at the moment.
I would be
very, very, very happy to find a
municipality who actually is
willing to make a press announcement
that
they are refusing to use Wi-Fi
for you after what they have learned
about it, especially given
the centralized ID infrastructure that
is supposed to be implemented in 2019
in
combination with the evidence problem.
And at the moment,
I would suggest finding the €15000
somewhere else.
Thanks. Because it's 15000 euros,
but if you set up wireless, 15000
euros is basically the cost of three
routers.
OK.
Let's give Goodyear a huge remembrance,
the thank you so much for coming out and
telling us about life for you.
Thank you.
Well, thanks for your time.